Wasn't so much worried about records as it blowing up. Lol
Wasn't so much worried about records as it blowing up. Lol
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Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse
I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work.... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
FIIO K7 BT, M11 PLUS, BTR7, KA5 - OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - PANASONIC 4K ULTRA HD TV - PIXEL 6 - AVANTREE LR BLUETOOTH - 2* X600 SOUNDCORE - HEADPHONES INCLUDE, FIIO, NURAPHONES', FOCAL, OPPO, BOSE, CAMBRIDGE, BOWER & WILKINS, DEVIALET, MARSHALL, SONY, MITCHELL & JOHNSTON - 2*ZBOOK'S- MERCURY BD ROM, ROON, QOBUZ, TIDAL, PLEX, CYBERLINK, JRIVER - MULTI HDD'S -
Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?
“Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".
“You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”
"You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”
“There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”
***SMILE, BE HAPPY***
Regards,
Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse
I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work.... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
FIIO K7 BT, M11 PLUS, BTR7, KA5 - OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - PANASONIC 4K ULTRA HD TV - PIXEL 6 - AVANTREE LR BLUETOOTH - 2* X600 SOUNDCORE - HEADPHONES INCLUDE, FIIO, NURAPHONES', FOCAL, OPPO, BOSE, CAMBRIDGE, BOWER & WILKINS, DEVIALET, MARSHALL, SONY, MITCHELL & JOHNSTON - 2*ZBOOK'S- MERCURY BD ROM, ROON, QOBUZ, TIDAL, PLEX, CYBERLINK, JRIVER - MULTI HDD'S -
Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?
“Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".
“You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”
"You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”
“There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”
***SMILE, BE HAPPY***
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I believe the worry about high temperatures is that the ultrasonic transducer itself generates heat and there can be tiny hot spots due to this - so the overall 40c temperature isn't the figure to worry about, so much as the potential for much higher temperatures in the bubbles down at groove level. Hence the Degritter switching off completely above 40c, and in the production version a cooling device to ensure even lower temperatures - to minimise the risk of very high temperatures where the cleaning beam is focused on the groove. With this in mind it's utter madness to clean records in a ultrasonic bath at 60c especially with IPA in the mix.
Having said that the Degritter uses a much higher frequency - 120kHz rather than 40 kHz - there's a lot more power being used and the emitters are directed at the record. Might not be such a need for such conservative measures with the bath method so long as overall temperatures are kept sensible.
Video done by another beta user, mine is a slightly later generation than this one though still not the release version
Finally committed to getting one of these myself, the guys at Degritter say it should be with me in September this year, looking forward to it and hoping it ticks all the right boxes for me.
Vinyl rig 1 - NAS Spacedeck / FR64s / Lab 12 Melto / Denon SUT / Ortofon GM SPU. Vinyl rig 2 Mono Set Up - Lenco GL75 c/w Jelco 750D / AT33 Mono / EAR 834P Modded. Amplifiers - Audio Note Empress Silver / Hattor Passive Pre. Digital - Fanless Mini PC / Lampizator TRP / Linear PSU / Hummingboard Network audio adaptor. Speakers - Horns.pl Mummy's. Cables are Audio Note / Albedo / Furutech Speaker wire. Power conditioner is a Gigawatt PC2 EVO
Just borrowed this, courtesy of Kedar ... AudioDesk Vinyl Pro. Degritter has gone back for upgrade to next beta version.
Interesting .. it cleans well enough, I've only had it working a day or so and don't have the Degritter here for a back to back comparison, but I think it's of broadly similar effectiveness to the Degritter.
However it feels a bit basic in terms of functionality to the Degritter, for example, no means to vary cleaning time or drying time (so if it doesn't clean first time you have to run the whole cycle again), also it's definitely noisier both during the cleaning cycle and also when the fan comes on, and it's no looker in terms of aesthetics. Has a bit of a 'previous generation' feel to it in my view but I guess the looks might appeal to some.
Great to get a play with it though and will be interesting when my Degritter comes back to do a full comparison on similar material (two records from a dusty box set for example).
Just a few sec of video as as it's pretty tedious filming let alone watching:
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I'm Nat.
Makes my PHK attached to a Screwfix industrial Vacuum look a bit sad. Might try one of those tanks from Amazon though that along with the PHK set up in the living room should go down a treat with my beloved.
There is a separate thread for DIY approaches to ultrasonic cleaning. http://theartofsound.net/forum/showt...ght=ultrasonic
I looked into it but it’s really not what I want for the living room.
Yes the commercial machines are a lot more expensive but are far more easy on the eye, far more convenient to use on the fly (clean one record at a time when you want to listen to it - minimal faff) and a lot more marriage-friendly.
Indeed I don’t see these approaches as competitors at all ...
Last edited by montesquieu; 14-07-2018 at 08:59.