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Thread: Equipment Comparisons and Box Swapping. The Bane of HI-Fi!

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    Default Equipment Comparisons and Box Swapping. The Bane of HI-Fi!

    You know how it is. You have a system that gives you what you like and want and you're happy..............for a while.

    Then you read a great review or hear another piece of equipment and the doubts start. It may be something you've heard at a friend's place or at a dealer's, so you decide you really want to try one (whatever it is).

    You buy said component and all is well (hopefully) to start with, then you suspect the new item is highlighting a suspected weakness in something else and that will now need changing, so the pattern starts developing. You think you are moving forward and have your targets set, but largely, you are in 'the equipment loop'!!! Change for the sake of change, endlessly.

    Sometimes, a real eye opener of a component comes along and that stays.............for a bit longer, until doubts and niggles start setting in once more. As they will of course, because you become jaded and complacent and start to suspect expectations are possibly not being met, even if the system is sounding absolutely brilliant!


    There is no cure!

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    Yeah, These days I tend to not change anything for a while and see how I feel about getting anything new for a few months, years even sometimes. I think that no system is perfect as no system can do everything that you want, or think you want. There will always be something you can convince yourself needs “fixing” and when you do fix it something else gets compromised.
    ~Paul~

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    Very true Geoff.

    But, I know of very few other moments in life where grabbing that low priced "bargain" off ebay after a fierce bidding war and the thrill when the courier rings the doorbell to deliver the result, providing the next big adrenaline rush. It does have a downside though, when that eagerly awaited gem turns out to be a lemon.

    Those that stick to one system for many years are missing out there on those kind of addictive fixes.
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    I've not box swapped in ages! I mainly seem to be upgrading what I already own ( which I suppose is something similar).
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    Quote Originally Posted by REXTON View Post
    I've not box swapped in ages! I mainly seem to be upgrading what I already own ( which I suppose is something similar).
    You're still in stage one: Denial
    Current Lash Up:

    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    You're still in stage one: Denial
    Yes. The shame and embarrassment are hard to face up to. But there is help available. Just unburden yourself, crate up the offending gear and forward it to me. You know it makes sense (Rodney )!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    You're still in stage one: Denial
    Beware the crocodiles in denial.

    I'm not sure if this is a sign of lack of synergy, not imbibing enough or simply a characteristic craving which will never be satisfied. Upgrades on a theme are okay and perceivable, but don't generally last as the ear attunes. Completely changing horses though, despite the risk, can bring a totally different appreciation which can last a long time.

    Despite all this, there's always something to tempt a committed audiophile; otherwise you just ain't one !

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    You know how it is. You have a system that gives you what you like and want and you're happy..............for a while.

    Then you read a great review or hear another piece of equipment and the doubts start. It may be something you've heard at a friend's place or at a dealer's, so you decide you really want to try one (whatever it is).

    You buy said component and all is well (hopefully) to start with, then you suspect the new item is highlighting a suspected weakness in something else and that will now need changing, so the pattern starts developing. You think you are moving forward and have your targets set, but largely, you are in 'the equipment loop'!!! Change for the sake of change, endlessly.

    Sometimes, a real eye opener of a component comes along and that stays.............for a bit longer, until doubts and niggles start setting in once more. As they will of course, because you become jaded and complacent and start to suspect expectations are possibly not being met, even if the system is sounding absolutely brilliant!


    There is no cure!
    Of course there is a cure. Just get lots of HiFi items and then simply keep swapping them around for an almost unlimited variation in sounds.
    Current: [P20] Roon/Tidal > Custom PC> Chevron Paradox NDF16 > Phast Pre > Neuro. 686 > Tannoy Berkley (RFC tweaks)


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    I'm at stage 5: Acceptance. As long as I can afford it, I don't care anymore. It's fun and I hardly ever sell anything so I can always go back to what I had before if I decide I don't like the latest thing. That's the plus. The minus is the house is full of the bloody stuff. Makes me laugh when people say they are selling their cds to 'free up some space'. Yay! An extra cubic foot of room! Wouldn't even scratch the surface here.
    Current Lash Up:

    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.

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    At a time far in the future, your neighbours will realise they've not seen you for some years. The police will break the door down and after clambering over a wall of what will by then be vintage classic Hi-Fi gear. Your skeletal remains will be found in an armchair, surrounded by beer cans and take away cartons, in front of banks of Krell amps and huge Tannoys!

    Of course, similar will happen with Audio Al. (where is he lately?)

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