CD Revival?

[rigger67]

So for something to be considered quality it only has to be paid for? I suspect Robert M Pirsig would have had something to say about that line of reasoning...

No, you're missing the point. I said that because it was a historic scenario from when I worked in music retail.

The same could be said of someone today choosing to listen to it on YouTube or streaming it free or indeed just singing a song they like themselves.

Don't get me wrong, I am a massive music snob myself but I never say "That's shit" - I prefer "I don't like it" .. though it is hard sometimes

[Macca]

No, you're missing the point. I said that because it was a historic scenario from when I worked in music retail.

The same could be said of someone today choosing to listen to it on YouTube or streaming it free or indeed just singing a song they like themselves.

Don't get me wrong, I am a massive music snob myself but I never say "That's shit" - I prefer "I don't like it" .. though it is hard sometimes

No, I'm making a distinction between stuff I don't like and the stuff that is worthless to everyone. They are two different things for me.

Like I said, can't stand the Smiths but quite happy to acknowledge their genius, its just not my sort of thing. Same with most Classical. I don't think I'm a music snob, it's just there is a cut-off point where I say 'Wait a minute, this is just shite.' Like when you go to one of those pubs where you can buy a 'steak' for £4.99. You have two mouthfuls and then you say 'This isn't a steak, it's just shite.'

[rigger67]

... the stuff that is worthless to everyone.

Name something.
I honestly can't see how you can

[Stryder5]

I'm less concerned about the crappy equipment. Someone listening to proper music on a Crossly is preferable to someone listening to shite on a £10K Linn.

And before anyone write in to say that what is 'shite' is entirely subjective, I'd argue it isn't. There's music I don't like (The Smiths, for example), but that isn't shit music it is just not to my taste. Shit is completely different and very easy to spot.

I would argue that you can't listen to anything on a Crossly, or whatever suitcase type device, that could be considered music, it's a noise yes.

LP's to some are a fashion item.

[Phil Bishop]

Not sure about Crosleys but I think there is a place for cheap and cheerful gear - a record can be played very easily, with a pin and a piece of card if that's your wont. Cheap and cheerful gear will play records and make music. It's what we grew up with, many of us. My mate had a Bush system in the 70's which we all listened to. I witnessed a chap in a record shop sell an old stack system he had picked up to a bunch of kids for £10 - it sounded pretty dire to me but it worked and they were ecstatic to have something to play their records on.

FWIW I love The Smiths - the first track on their very first album "Reel Around The Fountain" - sublime lyrics and wonderful sound. Same goes for Morrisey - "Maudlin Street" brings tears to my eyes. A little goes a long way though.

Cheers

Phil

[Macca]

Name something.
I honestly can't see how you can

Of course I can but it's bound to offend someone's delicate sensibilities.

You got any albums with 'filler' tracks on them? There you go.

[walpurgis]

Name something.
I honestly can't see how you can

Played any Tiny Tim recently?

[Firebottle]

Bought a Blue Oyster Cult album because it had the current hit on it, the rest was shite

[rigger67]

Of course I can but it's bound to offend someone's delicate sensibilities.

You got any albums with 'filler' tracks on them? There you go.

One person's filler is another's favourite song.
I love obscure album tracks !
There's a DJ down here who does a request night and it's always fascinating hearing what gets played.

[Macca]

Bought a Blue Oyster Cult album because it had the current hit on it, the rest was shite

There's some right crap on BOC albums. That's a good example of what I'm talking about. Music by numbers.