"Today scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality"
Nikola Tesla
Its now a conspiracy theory to believe that the Immune system is capable of doing the job it was designed to do.
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If you really want to push the boat out. Look at Feastrex full range drivers.
http://lotusgroupusa.com/Feastrex1.htm
The prices are eyewatering!
Well I can't speak for anyone else but I have.
Not putting the boot in either but these speakers make what I personally consider to be unacceptable compromises. Happy to accept that for someone else that will not be the case. If someone is going to get all emotionally hurt over a discussion on speaker topology they are probably better off staying away from the internet, or maybe even life in general.
Nobody seems to be upset anyway, unless I missed that bit.
Current Lash Up:
TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.
There are some beautifully made full range drivers available from Chinese manufacturers (I have a couple of pairs).
These have been tempting me: https://de.aliexpress.com/item/WANBO...OrigTitle=true
The thing to bear in mind is that the Frugel Horn thing does not have a single iteration - if all I had heard was FH3s with Fostex FE-126 drivers I'd have quite a low opinion of them.
Mine originally had Mark Audio CHP-70 drivers in them, and the drivers weren't great with leading edge information. The tweeter helper came about because of the problem.
With the tweeter helpers in use the leading edge information came back, and as is often the case, the bass became better defined and timed better.
The speakers boogied like their very existence depended on it.
The drivers were switched out for Mark Audio Alpair 7.3, and one thing was immediately apparent.
The midband of the Alpair 7.3s is wonderful and very detailed.
The higher frequencies and leading edge information was superior to the CHP-70s too, but after a fairly short while I realised there was a frequency response falloff that made everything sound a bit too cuddly and nice.
The tweeter helpers were pressed back into action, and the problem went away again, with gains at the other end of the frequency band an added bonus.
The long and short of it is that someone who makes the comment that they've heard FH3s and didn't particularly like 'em is likely to have heard just one set of drivers, and there are quite a number of different variants that they haven't heard.
The definitive comment on performance needs to be taken with more than just a pinch of salt.
If I see FH3s with a single driver I stay away - my experience is that not all drivers are equal, some are much better that others, and the top end usually needs sorting.
Chris
Common sense isn't anymore!
Some info here Geoff if you haven’t seen it already-
http://www.frugal-horn.com/FH3.html
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