Sorry. I thought I'd replied. The Es are better but they are very different. I've only had the frugals in my system a short while so can't fully describe them yet. They throw a much more vivid image up than the Es and the midrange has more snap and immediacy but they lose out at the frequency extremes and body with voices. Not much though.They also seem to have a sweet spot volume wise whilst the Es are superb right through from quiet to full wang-age! Dunno if that helps at all