Watching something on Digital format compared to an older tape format, i can enjoy the older more comfortably & it's exactly the same with music.
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Watching something on Digital format compared to an older tape format, i can enjoy the older more comfortably & it's exactly the same with music.
And what's your point, Roger?
Vince is entitled to his opinion, which incidentally I sympathise with to a degree, but no-one necessarily needs to agree or disagree with it (engage with it). It's simply his view, based on his experience, and that's fine
I think what most of us are talking about when we say that we prefer vintage gear to most (but not ALL modern kit), is the BEST of that stuff: the stuff that was truly superb, not just then, but still is now. Not some of the old tat out there, which undeniably there's plenty of!
I've been busy recently, but will shortly be tackling some posts here I've missed.
Marco.
Main System
Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.
Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.
Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.
CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.
Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.
Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.
Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.
Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.
Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.
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Same here!
Marco.
Main System
Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.
Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.
Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.
CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.
Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.
Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.
Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.
Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.
Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.
Protect your HUMAN RIGHTS and REFUSE ANY *MANDATORY* VACCINE FOR COVID-19!
Also **SAY NO** to unjust 'vaccine passports' or certificates, which are totally incompatible with a FREE society!!!
I also use a combination of vintage and modern. Perhaps there is a perception that this is primarily a vintage hi-fi site? It really isn't. I think most here use a combination of what they can afford and what works best regardless if it was designed in 2016 or 1966.
Current Lash Up:
TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.
Vince has a point. If there weren't buyers like him to buy new gear, many of us wouldn't be able to find 2nd hand gear on eBay. We would then all be forced to buy new gear at an increased cost.
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I assumed what Vince was saying was that on balance he thinks the best new gear is better than the best old gear, so given the money he would buy new, because in his opinion it is better.
Current Lash Up:
TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.
The best new gear will beat the best old gear no problem... if money is not allowed to get in the way!
The designers of today's gear have the advantage of being able to "stand on the shoulders of giants" in learning from the best aspects of the old. There is also C.A.D available which can be a huge benefit and which designers in the past had to do without. Then there is improving components in many areas (and yes "obsolescence" of some older components which are never replaced and so sometimes a compromise must be made there).
IMHO the biggest problem today is peoples expectations regarding ever increasing VFM.... people think electronics should get cheaper and cheaper in real terms year on year and this often forces the modern designer to make huge compromises in order to deliver the product at a price the market "expects". This leads to a race to the bottom... "They don't build 'em like that any more"... well they could, and better, but you would go "it costs how much You can shove it!"
Remember that in today's money a mid '70's integrated amp, which would be whooped by a NAD 3020, was probably around £800!!! (Leak Delta 30 or what have you).
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Modded Thorens TD150, Audio Technica AT-1005 MkII, Technics EPC-300MC, Arkless Hybrid MC phono stage, Arkless passive pre, Arkless 50WPC Class A SS power amp, (or) Arkless modded Leak Stereo 20, Modded Kef Reference 105/3's
ReVox PR99, Studer B62, Ferrograph Series 7, Tandberg TCD440, Hitachi FT-5500MkI, also FT-5500MkII
Digital: Yamaha CDR-HD1500 (Digital Swiss army knife-CD recorder, player, hard drive, DAC and ADC in one), PC files via 24/96 sound card and SPDIF, modded Philips CD850, modded Philips CD104, modded DPA Little Bit DAC. Sennheiser HD580 cans with Arkless Headphone amp.
Cables- free interconnects that come with CD players, mains leads from B&Q, dead kettles etc, extension leads from Tesco