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I'm sorry, how can you say my beautiful PDX-8000 is "Blingy" (piccy attached)?!Originally Posted by Marco
No doubt the Vestax sounds great, I'd trust your ears on that one. It's just a pity it looks so fugly and blingy (at least to my eyes)!
Marco.
As an aside, look at the arm, specifically around the bearing housing. Now go and find a picture of a Yamaha GT-750 on Google and look at that arm's bearing housing. Interesting resemblance.....
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Do you really want me to answer that??I'm sorry, how can you say my beautiful PDX-8000 is "Blingy" (piccy attached)?!
I'll go now and have a squinto on Googly.......As an aside, look at the arm, specifically around the bearing housing. Now go and find a picture of a Yamaha GT-750 on Google and look at that arm's bearing housing. Interesting resemblance.....
Marco.
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Those straight arms are simply laughable. The tracing misalignment distortion must be incredible. All done for the looks!
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It's not for looks at all as the decks were designed for hard scratch use. Think about a conventional arm - you apply anti-skating to pull the arm back out in order to counteract the natural inward pull of the groove when the record is spinning. Now reverse the direction of rotation of the record and suddenly that bias is pushing the arm in the SAME direction as its natural pull. The upshot is the arm jumps out of the groove unless a shedload of stylus pressure is applied.
The straight Vestax ASTS (Anti-Skipping Tonearm System) has a dead band in the centre of the playing area where the arm has no tendency to move either in or out - do your scratching here and it's completely stable.
OK so it's not ideal for hi-fi use, but Vestax did some variants with conventional S-shaped arms. Furthermore, with a spherical stylus running at its recommended pressure (I use an Ortofon OM Pro S at 3g), I can hear no horrendous distortion on my PDX-8000!
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I have a Vestax PDX-2300 and when I was using Ortofon DJ carts on a 1210 and Vestax going into a Pioneer DJM-600 mixer I thought the Vestax had the 1210 beat on sound quality. Mid range was defo clearer and sounded more exciting than the 1210.
The vestax however had wobbly pitch and certainly not built like the 1210.
I would say for my 1210 the MN bearing gave the biggest improvement followed by the Timestep PSU.
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As promised, Vestax motor pictures attached. As I thought, the name is indeed moulded into the casting, so would seem to be a make-specific part.
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