I want a Garrard but this is a bit much!

[chris@panteg]

Hi Stewart

You say that but most folk who are into Garrard's and lenco's have them meticulously well set up and fully refurbished and they love them .

I don't think the casual listener is going to fork out 2k for one of these .

[Clive]

I have a 301 and a new Salvation sitting side by side. The 301 indeed sounds great and it really is not that hard to get an old idler performing properly. I wouldn't call a 301 neutral, it is coloured, in a way that is pleasing, the same applies to the 401 but to a lesser degree. The £2k figure being discussed is interesting as the Salavation http://www.trans-fi.com/turntable.htm is around that price. As good as the Garrards are the Salvation rim-drive deck shows them a clean pair of heels.

[StanleyB]

A deck is only as good as the person setting it up. I have seen some expensive pieces of kit on a wall mounted shelf . Highly noticeable to visitors, but sonically not much better than a BSR...
The 401 needs a good solid foundation to really show its metal.

[Clive]

Here are the 2 decks I was talking about, the 301 is on a twin tier slate plinth.

[John]

The great thing about the Salvation is just how much it been improved over the last year It was a great TT a year ago, but now well just stunning performance. In my view its the best value to performance TT out there and would compete against TT costing crazy money

[Clive]

Indeed John......it's been really interesting being so close to all the developments. As you know the final touches are being made to the all-important power supply. We had a power supply shoot out on Tuesday and Vic is running a final trial today. We bettered what you heard so recently!

[DSJR]

A deck is only as good as the person setting it up. I have seen some expensive pieces of kit on a wall mounted shelf . Highly noticeable to visitors, but sonically not much better than a BSR...
The 401 needs a good solid foundation to really show its metal.

What's wrong with sinking all the energy into a heavy, load bearing wall? My Mentor was mounted this way (the wall was made from "engineering" grade bricks I suspect as the deck with slab weighted over a hundredweight) and sounded absobloodybloomin' marvelous...

Our previous house had a suspended concrete boomy floor and my little starter home had chipboard on polystyrene

[chris@panteg]

Like Dave said , i have a bouncy floor , what's the alternative ? hang it from the ceiling .

[Rare Bird]

Your a laugh a min you lot arguing over turntables when they are the most Prehistoric medicore way of playing music which ever way you choose

posh nail stuck in a plastic groove

[Clive]

Your a laugh a min you lot arguing over turntables when they are the most Prehistoric medicore way of playing music which ever way you choose

posh nail stuck in a plastic groove

So how's shining a light into series of slots any better?