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    Can't leave nowt alone

    Just as well some of us like to muck around with things and create interesting threads
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    Quote Originally Posted by brian2957 View Post
    Can't leave nowt alone

    Just as well some of us like to muck around with things and create interesting threads
    It's funny you should say that because I have decided to keep my recent Lenco purchase stock and do a sensative restoration. I'm aiming to emulate how the deck would have performed back in 1973, then I'm going to do my reference Lenco and compare them to see how each upgrade works and what it brings to the table. This little experiment should keep me going for a good while yet.
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    Croft Epoch(Modded) AMP Sondex S100 (Modded) SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Ref XO + Batpure supertweeters DECK Garrard 301 Mat Teunto Bearings 401(Bastin) Plinth Bamboo Arms 3009/3012 PSU Eagle+Tachometer MC Ag Meister II/FGS + Ortofon SPU MONO CABLES Arm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ SpeakerPC Tripple C+WBT-0681 Ag IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostages Paradise(4 Box Mega-Modded) / Croft Musicmaker

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wakefield Turntables View Post
    It's funny you should say that because I have decided to keep my recent Lenco purchase stock and do a sensative restoration. I'm aiming to emulate how the deck would have performed back in 1973, then I'm going to do my reference Lenco and compare them to see how each upgrade works and what it brings to the table. This little experiment should keep me going for a good while yet.
    That will be very interesting. I would like to something similar but with a PTP project.
    Main system : VPI Scout 1.1 / JMW 9T / 2M Black / Croft 25R+ / Croft 7 / Heco Celan GT 702

    Second System : Goldring Lenco GL75 / AT95EX / Pioneer SX590 / Spendor SP2

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    The Garrard 401 (39432) Restoration Pt XIV - Going all German!

    Stanley Engineering in Germany have come through again for me! Thanks guys! Here is a picture of the newly installed Panzerholz body for my beloved M55E.



    I'll be installing this soon and shall be presenting a few notes about how it sounds over the next few days.

    Stay tuned. ..
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    VALVE
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    Croft Epoch(Modded) AMP Sondex S100 (Modded) SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Ref XO + Batpure supertweeters DECK Garrard 301 Mat Teunto Bearings 401(Bastin) Plinth Bamboo Arms 3009/3012 PSU Eagle+Tachometer MC Ag Meister II/FGS + Ortofon SPU MONO CABLES Arm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ SpeakerPC Tripple C+WBT-0681 Ag IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostages Paradise(4 Box Mega-Modded) / Croft Musicmaker

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wakefield Turntables View Post
    The Garrard 401 (39432) Restoration Pt XIV - Going all German!

    Stanley Engineering in Germany have come through again for me! Thanks guys! Here is a picture of the newly installed Panzerholz body for my beloved M55E.



    I'll be installing this soon and shall be presenting a few notes about how it sounds over the next few days.

    Stay tuned. ..
    Can you do a few pics of the installation Andy?
    Main system : VPI Scout 1.1 / JMW 9T / 2M Black / Croft 25R+ / Croft 7 / Heco Celan GT 702

    Second System : Goldring Lenco GL75 / AT95EX / Pioneer SX590 / Spendor SP2

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    The hardest bit is to remove the plastic body from the Shure cartridge, but, as luck would have it, watch this...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyPxDnptPPk
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    VALVE
    PRE
    Croft Epoch(Modded) AMP Sondex S100 (Modded) SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Ref XO + Batpure supertweeters DECK Garrard 301 Mat Teunto Bearings 401(Bastin) Plinth Bamboo Arms 3009/3012 PSU Eagle+Tachometer MC Ag Meister II/FGS + Ortofon SPU MONO CABLES Arm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ SpeakerPC Tripple C+WBT-0681 Ag IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostages Paradise(4 Box Mega-Modded) / Croft Musicmaker

    MONO
    Pre Croft Epoch Power Sondex S100 Deck Garrard 301 Tonearm SME 3009 Cartridge SPU MONO mk II Phonostage Croft Music Maker Speaker Quad ESL 57 Cables Tonearm SME IC - Duelund Realsound Speaker SEAC 850C



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    What is so special about Panzerholz over, say, ebony? Come to think of it, the first Koetsu cartridge had a rosewood body, so that would be an alternative.
    Barry

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    Barry, years ago I managed to buy some scraps of Panzerholz. I made a two SME spacers for my 3009 and 3012 on my 301. All I can say is that things improved markedly. Panzerholz has excellent damping properties and has been used by many people with positive effects. I think Linn made a 50th anniversary LP12 with a Panzerholz plinth. I use Panzerholz for its damping properties but only in very specific areas. All my experiments have been based around damping key areas of the tonearm such as the tonearm/plinth and cartridge/tonearm interfaces. I've yet to be disappointed. All I can say is that I have been VERY pleased with the Panzerholz cartridge body for my M55E and it's taken this cartridge to another level. It's extremely rare that you'll hear me say something like that on a forum.
    You could ask with Luthiers choose specific woods for specific reasons, I'm sure they could give a far more insightful answer than my wafflings.
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    VALVE
    PRE
    Croft Epoch(Modded) AMP Sondex S100 (Modded) SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Ref XO + Batpure supertweeters DECK Garrard 301 Mat Teunto Bearings 401(Bastin) Plinth Bamboo Arms 3009/3012 PSU Eagle+Tachometer MC Ag Meister II/FGS + Ortofon SPU MONO CABLES Arm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ SpeakerPC Tripple C+WBT-0681 Ag IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostages Paradise(4 Box Mega-Modded) / Croft Musicmaker

    MONO
    Pre Croft Epoch Power Sondex S100 Deck Garrard 301 Tonearm SME 3009 Cartridge SPU MONO mk II Phonostage Croft Music Maker Speaker Quad ESL 57 Cables Tonearm SME IC - Duelund Realsound Speaker SEAC 850C



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    The Garrard 401 (39432) Restoration Pt XV - Coming in song

    I finally managed to find time to properly install the Panzerholz cartridge body for my hot rodded Shure M55E, and here she is.



    The Panzerholz body has really transformed this M55E and I have to say that the new body is as equally important as the JICO SAS/B stylus in making this vintage cartridge a giant killer. I've not switeched on my Garrard 301 now for five weeks and it has a cartridge costing many times that of the M55E even taking into account the cost of the modifications. This cartridge now surpasses the performance of a Ortofon 2M black cartridge and without all the messing around associated with set up of these cartridges. Musical seperation bewteen instruments is staggering. Detail is staggering. I'm extremely happy with this cartridge and the argument for a JICO SAS/R is now more than justified. I'm hoping to buy one at some this year and this should push performance even further. Installing the new body has not been without problems. I did have to increase the diameter of the screw hole shafts in the body by several mm's to accomodate my mounting screws but that was no big deal. So, the M55E is now sitting parallel with the record surface, loaded with 500pF of capacitance, tracks at 1.25g with 1.1g of bias applied. I would say that I've put about 10-15 hours on the cart now so not quite broken in but each hour is a true joy!

    Stay tuned.....
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    CD Teac VRDS25X(Audiotuned) DECK 1210 Mat Crystal Audio Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony armboard Feet Isonoe PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/3 Stage Regs/Recap PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MC Cadenza Black FGS CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10

    VALVE
    PRE
    Croft Epoch(Modded) AMP Sondex S100 (Modded) SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Ref XO + Batpure supertweeters DECK Garrard 301 Mat Teunto Bearings 401(Bastin) Plinth Bamboo Arms 3009/3012 PSU Eagle+Tachometer MC Ag Meister II/FGS + Ortofon SPU MONO CABLES Arm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ SpeakerPC Tripple C+WBT-0681 Ag IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostages Paradise(4 Box Mega-Modded) / Croft Musicmaker

    MONO
    Pre Croft Epoch Power Sondex S100 Deck Garrard 301 Tonearm SME 3009 Cartridge SPU MONO mk II Phonostage Croft Music Maker Speaker Quad ESL 57 Cables Tonearm SME IC - Duelund Realsound Speaker SEAC 850C



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