Mats for the 1210...

[The Vinyl Adventure]

Like I said in that other thread it had just picked up dust from when I had taken it off and put it on the arm of the sofa or whatever... Because the underside is White you don't see the dust build up in the same way as you do on the top

[Marco]

No worries - mine just sits on the platter doing its thang. It hasn't moved since Dave fitted the Mike New bearing, and will probably sit there until I next need access to the 'internals' - when fitting the new platter, perhaps?

Marco.

[colinB]

I thought you used a record weight Hamish? Dont tell me youve given up on them i just bought one. I thought that was one of the benefits.

[atap]

Hi Ben,

However, just to clarify, is it definitely the "Way Excellent II-3.7mm 285mm (11.22") diameter for platters with a raised outer ridge like Technics SL-1200 series" mat you're using, shown here:

http://herbiesaudiolab.net/ttmat.htm

Please confirm this, as otherwise you'll not be hearing the mat's full sonic effect.

Marco.

Sir, possesion of target object confirmed, sir!


Well, that static issue disturbs me a lot... I also thought about ordering a thicker mat from Herbie, but I'm also open for any suggestions for newer mats, that would perform better - that's why I was looking and asking for mats made of carbon and other material - hoping to get some better behaviour regarding static & dust..

However, it seems there are only few 285mm diameter mats for the 1210 - and everybody seems to be happy with his Herbie mat.

[The Vinyl Adventure]

I have that static problem too, but only if I don't use the carbon cleaning brush on my records... Isn't there some kinda anti static clicker thing that can be used to ferther decrease that sort of issue

[Marco]

Hi Ben,

Sir, possesion of target object confirmed, sir!

Lol!

Well, that static issue disturbs me a lot... I also thought about ordering a thicker mat from Herbie, but I'm also open for any suggestions for newer mats, that would perform better - that's why I was looking and asking for mats made of carbon and other material - hoping to get some better behaviour regarding static & dust..

Do you fit the lid when your 1210's not in use?

The thicker Herbie's mat is not as good because all you're doing then is creating a greater 'sandwich effect' between the record and the platter, when ideally you want to minimise this, and for the mat therefore to be as thin as possible, so that the record and platter are held together closely as 'one'.

The thicker mat is only of benefit for damping the platter slightly more. What you really want for the best effect is to clamp the record, mat and platter firmly to each other, so that everything couples together with minimal 'sandwich effect'. For that, you need the thinner Herbie's mat, which will still damp the platter sufficiently well, especially once a record is placed on it.

However, it seems there are only few 285mm diameter mats for the 1210 - and everybody seems to be happy with his Herbie mat.

Indeed. The problem is that it's a trade-off: use an acrylic or carbon mat and (possibly) get better behaviour regarding static and dust, but end up with a less sonically effective interface between record and mat.......

Me? I'll keep the Herbie's/Sound-Hifi mat and 'soldier on' regardless with the static and dust

Tip: Use a professional record cleaner in conjunction with a Zerostat gun and Nagaoka/Musical Fidelity anti-static sleeves (like I do), and you'll all but eliminate the latter!

Marco.

P.S Colin, you have a question to answer on your Jelco 250 thread.

[The Grand Wazoo]

I have that static problem too, but only if I don't use the carbon cleaning brush on my records... Isn't there some kinda anti static clicker thing that can be used to ferther decrease that sort of issue

QUOTE MARCO: Tip: Use a professional record cleaner in conjunction with a Zerostat gun and Nagaoka anti-static sleeves (like I do), and you'll all but eliminate the latter!

Anyway, what's with all this mat sandwich business? I keep reading about these folks who feel they've got to stack 'em up. Doesn't anyone make one that works properly on it's own?

I've got a theory about all this..............