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    Default Indulging my internet audiophile voodoo...

    If you haven't figured it out by now, I cary a fair amount of skepticism around with me. So I'm not looking for a used Playstation 1 to use as a source, and when I read a review online that describes a homemade speaker cable created from a bit of silver solder and a Wal-Mart outdoor drop cord like this:

    They have a warm musical balance not unlike Cardas Golden Cross, do lots of space and positively nail the tone. Tone, tone, tone - everywhere there's intensely beautiful tone! They have lots of musically natural detail and decent PRaT too. They do nice tight bass. They actually rank right up there with the best interconnects and speaker cables I've ever heard for overall musicality.
    But I figured I had just $8 or so to lose, so I picked up a length of Walmart's audiophile cable, the "Yardmaster Outdoor Patio Cord," and slapped some nice gold-ended banana plugs on them. And they sound good. I can't say veils of murk have lifted, revealing golden hues and magnificent resolution, or anything like that, but they sound good. Better than the standard issue speaker cable that was on there. Of course it could also be the fact that I've been running pink noise through these incredibly tight little speakers for the last 24 hours too. They seem to have opened up a bit, but they still suffer their core issue, which is a nasality in the mids that shows up particularly badly on human voices. There's a crossover mod on the web I could try. Or I could just buy a pair of those Tektons...

    Here's the review. They also recommend a Playstation 1 as the source.

    http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/z...gmahornet.html

    Tim

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    There's been quite a lot written about the wonders of the Playstation 1. When this happens there is usually something positive behind it all.
    I suppose it's possible that the PS1 at least has a decent transport. Presumably it's made to withstand the inevitable rough treatment from kids.
    I have a later PS1 standing by just in case i get unbelievably bored one day. But the desirable early ones, with the RCA sockets don't seem to be very common.
    Though i haven't really tried hard to find one.

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    Errrr......

    <sneeks off onto the loft where several playstations lurk>

    I'm just going out for a while, I may be some time.
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    I hate to say this guys but I've been there and done that (in a mate's system) with the appropriate Playstation.

    It sounds ok, probably about as good as any budget CDP, but it's a very long way from being able to compete with a top-notch CDP, such as my Sony, or something of its ilk.

    The horrible switch-mode PSU is probably largely responsible for the mediocre sound. I guess it's ok if you've got nothing else better to use, or for those on a very low budget.

    Marco.
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    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

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    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    Quote Originally Posted by alb View Post
    There's been quite a lot written about the wonders of the Playstation 1. When this happens there is usually something positive behind it all.
    I suppose it's possible that the PS1 at least has a decent transport.
    Unlikely a decent transport would make people think it sounds "audiophile." More likely it's an output section tweaked for gaming, ie: a low mid boost resulting in warmth.

    Tim

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    I hate to say this guys but I've been there and done that (in a mate's system) with the appropriate Playstation.

    It sounds ok, probably about as good as any budget CDP, but it's a very long way from being able to compete with a top-notch CDP, such as my Sony, or something of its ilk.

    The horrible switch-mode PSU is probably largely responsible for the mediocre sound. I guess it's ok if you've got nothing else better to use, or for those on a very low budget.

    Marco.
    Ahh, but how about if it has an off-board DAC attached? I can't remember if the PS1 had a digital out or not.

    <sneeks off into the bedroom cupboard where several playstations lurk>


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    That'll be a no then. Blimey, have you ever seen anything with such limited connectivity?


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    By all means have a play, mate - experimenting is what hi-fi is all about. I wouldn't expect anything special from it, though. Like I said it was very average when I tried it and absolutely nothing like what I'm used to hearing with CD.

    Keep us posted though if you discover anything exciting

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    Well since it has no digital output, there's feck all I can do with it.

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    If I remember correctly Ian fitted some phono sockets to his Playstation (it was the 'desirable' model) and we just connected it to his preamp like a normal CDP. The sound quality I'm afraid was distinctly underwhelming. I'm think that sometimes you get what you pay for in hi-fi...

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


    Protect your HUMAN RIGHTS and REFUSE ANY *MANDATORY* VACCINE FOR COVID-19!

    Also **SAY NO** to unjust 'vaccine passports' or certificates, which are totally incompatible with a FREE society!!!


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