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    Paul,

    When you removed the volume pot from the WD88 did you replace it with fixed resistors, or just wire the phono sockets directly onto the I/P board?

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    I just wired the phono sockets (1 pair) direct to the inputs of the amp's circuit.

    If you want a little less gain you could put in a fixed attenuator but I never been satified with the resultant sound. Might be a better option to increase the feedback by increase the value of the feedback shunt resistors. If you do this you might want to give the amp a through test to make sure its stable.

    I find I have way too much gain and might try increasing the feedback myself.
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    Yeah, I kind of thought the sensitivity might be OTT if I just wire the sockets directly onto the I/P board.

    Just doing a bit of chin rubbing over adding a pre and converting the '88' into a straight power amp. I've no need for two volume controls.


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    I can recommend the Pre3 which is what I have although there are many other good preamps out there. If you plan to go for a passive unit don't bother as this is what you already have inside the WD88, (unless its a transformer based passive).
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    I'd like a Pre3 but the scratch build DIY bug has bitten hard.

    I need an active pre though or I'll never get this 'ere Troughline up and running, thats why I'm going gog eyed through trolling t'internet for schematics n stuff. The '88' will be an organ donor with respect to it's relay board coz I like it! The volume pot, selector switch, and knobs will go into the pre also, hence the question earlier.

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    Very nice Paul - I'm a huge fan of the WAD/WD stuff and may end up owning some of their wares some time in the future (I'm currently borrowing a mate's KaT34 which sounds marvellous). I did once have a hot-rodded KEL84 which, into the AN speakers I had at the time, was possibly the most musically explicit amplifier I've ever owned - a truly wonderful little thing.

    You mention Robert Sayle's - I'm presuming you're from Cambridge (or thereabouts?).
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    Is it just me or do others not get email notifications about posts sometimes?? I only noticed these replies cos I happened to look at the AOS web site.

    Mike, Many others will disagree with me but if you want a no gain active preamp you cant go too wrong with putting an opamp buffer either side of a volume pot. You can also go with Cathode Followers instead of opamps but have the agro of the extra complexity. However theres a fine line between ambition and stupidity with us DIY'ers (if I may say so myself) so of course the more complex option is the one to go for!!

    Richard, yep I live near Cambridge but I didn't know Robert Sayle was a Cambridge company I throught they were everywhere. I also have a Kel84 which a friend is trying to see if he likes it. To be honest its a great amp and the WD88 while a super amp wasn't as big an upgrade as I thought it would be. It even drove my Martin Logans with their 1 ohm load at high freqs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primalsea View Post
    Is it just me or do others not get email notifications about posts sometimes??
    I only get notifications if I 'subscribe' to the thread. But I can't remember the last time I did that so I've not noticed a problem TBH.
    Shian7
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