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  1. #221
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    Hey Martin,

    What do you say to those folks who insist you should never use vaseline for such an application as it has corrosive qualities that can only mean bad news for your deck? Only asking as I havent the first notion about such things.

    Nathan

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinT View Post
    Use Vaseline, not tape. The bond formed is very strong and airtight.
    DIY is fine and dandy, but just try selling it on!

    Nathan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RochaCullen View Post
    What do you say to those folks who insist you should never use vaseline for such an application as it has corrosive qualities that can only mean bad news for your deck?
    I'd say "find your own solution". Never had any problems in the two years that I was using an Achromat.

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    Question It's time to up this thread...

    I've read this Techie forum about last week and don't stop thinking about some Techie mods... In novadays we have a pretty good choice of Techie TT mats (on eBay especially). So I've thinking about new Platter Mat for my Techie (and I'm use till now a stock Technics thick rubber mat of 5 mm thickness). So the question is... Did anyone tried this UK made Cherry Audio Gloss Acrylic Platter Mat for Technics ?... -

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Audiophile-T...19.m1438.l2649

    For me it looks very interesting in specs (thickness of 5 mm, weight of 368 g) and attractive black gloss look. So the price attractive too (in comparison of Achromat for example).
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    My ears have never been able to detect any difference in sound quality between the mats I have tried (I'm not saying there isn't any - it probably says more about my ears!)

    I now use leather because it looks great and there is no static whatsoever.

    Regarding the one you link to, doesn't acrylic produce static and attracts dust?

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    Has anyone checked this new Stein Music Perfect Interface mat for the Technics?

    https://positive-feedback.com/audio-...ect-interface/
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    Turntable: Technics SL-1200 MKII, Ortofon 2M Bronze cartridge, Mike New bearing, MCRU PSU (c), Oyaide HS-CF headshell, Oyaide MJ-12 TT mat, Vantage Audio Copper mat, Isonoe Isolation Feet, Isodek IF-2 isolation platform, Furutech Monza LP stabilizer, Herbie's Hal-O JR damper Phono Stage: Hagerman Cornet 3 (prototype) Amplifiers: EAR 868L Preamp, Transcription Audio 211 Heaven Power amp, Bob Carver Cherry 180 power amp CD Player: Ear Yoshino Acute Tuner: Magnum Dynalab 90T Speakers: Vandersteen 2CE SigII, Townshend Audio Super Tweeters, Transcription Audio Speakers Cables and stuff: LFD Audio interconnects and speaker cables, Mark Grant G2000HD, BlackCat Electronics, Van Den Hul Clearwater, Black Rhodium mains cables, Black Rhodium mains block, Finite Elements Resonator, Townhsend Stella Speaker stands, Pro Audio Bono hifi rack, Herbie's spike gliders, Herbie's Ultravox and Hal-O tube dampers, Super Black Hole CD mat Record Cleaning Machine: Loricraft PRC4

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    Quote Originally Posted by indy View Post
    I've read this Techie forum about last week and don't stop thinking about some Techie mods... In novadays we have a pretty good choice of Techie TT mats (on eBay especially). So I've thinking about new Platter Mat for my Techie (and I'm use till now a stock Technics thick rubber mat of 5 mm thickness). So the question is... Did anyone tried this UK made Cherry Audio Gloss Acrylic Platter Mat for Technics ?... -

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Audiophile-T...19.m1438.l2649

    For me it looks very interesting in specs (thickness of 5 mm, weight of 368 g) and attractive black gloss look. So the price attractive too (in comparison of Achromat for example).
    Hi I am new to the forum, and have just bought the cherry Audio 5mm mat. It arrived last week and looks very nice. It said on EBay that there were only a limited amount left so I took a chance. I also have an XTM1 platter which is 3mm which I bought for my Thorens TD160 but it fits the Technics better, I have since found.

    I have only just bought and had serviced my first Technics SL1200 MK2 and should have it up and running soon. However I intend to get used to the stock sound first before applying the tweaks or upgrades to see what difference they make to my ears. So I will listen to the original rubber mat first.

    Other future tweaks will be feet, possibly a bearing and external psu. I have just listened to a friends Nottingham Analogue Space Deck with the tonearm damper silicon trough thing which sits at the cartridge end. Listening to his system both on and off, it made a difference in tightening up the bass when used; less flabby to my ears. So, I am thinking of buying the KAB damper as well although it is the opposite end to the Nottingham damper. Hope that’s not hijacking this thread.
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    Question KAB platter mats

    Has anyone tried the new Poly Metal or Poly Glass mats from KAB? Their products are generally very good.
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  9. #229
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    Default Achromat for Technics plus ...

    Hi Marco,
    I have the Achromat for my SL1210M5G and like it. A friend suggested i try a glass platter mat, I did and found it a tad bright. I also own a Herbies way better 2mm mat, the one that resides inside the lip of the technics platter ... fits like the Achromat. I thought, why not place the Herbies under the glass mat? Made a major improvement so for the heck of it, I removed the glass and placed the Achromat on top of the Herbies. Gobsmacked I am. My ears tell me that the combination is an improvement over the Achromat or glass alone. A Herbies under either seems to warm and open things up and the Achromat/Herbies is what I'm listening to these days. Of course that can change with my mood but I thought I'd mention it.


    Best Regards,

    Doug Olsen

    "A man can never have too many turntables"

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    Hi Doug,

    How's it going? Hope you are well. Sorry for the late reply - only just noticed your post!

    Glad that combo of mats works well for you. With these things, it's simply a case of 'suck it and see', as the results are very system dependent. Enjoy your tunes!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

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