Kiseki Milltek Aurora High End

**DSJR** · 04-10-2010, 07:48

Used the supplied way, the big Maggies are just as you describe Darren. Hifi dave meant that "too much" was perfect

Jimmy always wanted to go that much further, for good or ill, so the first thing he did was to remove the grille cloth, turn the speakers round so the sound came from the rear (magnets were then behind the diaphragm rather than in front of) and maybe did some crossover tinkering (I can't remember). The end result was a hugely OTT sound that could be fatiguing on bad recordings/mastering - a similar kind of thing to using high resolution huge monitors at home (large double-driver Tannoys, JBL's, ATC200/300's, that kind of thing). The Impulse speakers he ended up with had just the right balance of detail, dynamic range, lowish colouration and listening "comfort" too.

**hifi_dave** · 04-10-2010, 09:13

Originally Posted by Darren

Really? In what way Dave? The Maggies that I own/ have owned have all been so smooth and expansive sounding.
My first pair of SMGbs were nicknamed the musical ironing boards at home. They sounded so natural out into the room with loads of space behind and around them.

I love Maggies and we did OK with them but of course, a speaker of this size is always going to be a hard sell in GB even though we used to demonstrate that they are slim and can be pushed out of the way when not used.

A pair of MG-111 driven by a pair of EAR 549 monoblocks was an awesome sound, producing a truly massive soundstage and bags of solid midband.

**SPS** · 04-10-2010, 11:21

hope you dont mind me asking.. but i have a kiseki blue gold spot i bought around 12 years ago.. i had it rebuilt.. just to stop me wondering what i had really had..

when i got it back it owsted the lyra lydian beta i had just bought

i was quite pleased..

it's been in the draw for at least 6 years..
what i was quite impressed with, was the matching step up transformers
which i still use on occasions.. they are audiophile products mc1 silver wired
they must be rare .. i've been looking for review / info ever since
any experts? there's very little on the web (or so it seems)

cheers
steve

**hifi_dave** · 04-10-2010, 14:46

Originally Posted by SPS

hope you dont mind me asking.. but i have a kiseki blue gold spot i bought around 12 years ago.. i had it rebuilt.. just to stop me wondering what i had really had..

when i got it back it owsted the lyra lydian beta i had just bought

i was quite pleased..

it's been in the draw for at least 6 years..
what i was quite impressed with, was the matching step up transformers
which i still use on occasions.. they are audiophile products mc1 silver wired
they must be rare .. i've been looking for review / info ever since
any experts? there's very little on the web (or so it seems)

cheers
steve

Is the transformer a black tube approx 9 inches long x 2.5 inches diameter, with a captive incon and mounted on a wooden cradle ?

**Darren** · 04-10-2010, 17:51

Originally Posted by SPS

hope you dont mind me asking.. but i have a kiseki blue gold spot i bought around 12 years ago.. i had it rebuilt.. just to stop me wondering what i had really had..

when i got it back it owsted the lyra lydian beta i had just bought

i was quite pleased..

it's been in the draw for at least 6 years..
what i was quite impressed with, was the matching step up transformers
which i still use on occasions.. they are audiophile products mc1 silver wired
they must be rare .. i've been looking for review / info ever since
any experts? there's very little on the web (or so it seems)

cheers
steve

Hi Steve,
You lucky Jotter.... I wish I had a kiseki stuck in a drawer someplace and a pair of silver wired transformers as well.... What a nightmare for you! ( joke)
I can smell a second analogue front end coming on here..... If you don't use 'em, you'll lose 'em!
( or I'll buy them off you for peanuts!)

**quickie** · 04-10-2010, 20:20

I had a Milltek Olympia for a while on a Kuzma Stogi/PT Anniversary which I think was the model up from the Aurora.

Very nice cartridge though no where near the performance of the Kiseki Agate Ruby also had at the time.

Paul.

**SPS** · 05-10-2010, 08:18

Originally Posted by hifi_dave

Is the transformer a black tube approx 9 inches long x 2.5 inches diameter, with a captive incon and mounted on a wooden cradle ?

thats the one dave, there's a couple of transformers inside, silver endcaps

i dont have the wood stand though... do you know it?

darren,

i have a few other hobbys.. so i dont use my hi fi that often really

the record player got its first use since may, on saturday night...

last spring i bought a dynavector ultimo 30a, (what i believed to be a van den hul rebuild ? it has a 2009 brul & Kjoer print out, which i believe is their rebuild trademark ?)

that the best sounding cart i have at the moment.. i still have a soft spot for the m3d too..

any info is appreciated on any of my 'rare' bits..

cheers
steve

**DSJR** · 05-10-2010, 08:34

That Kiseki Blue was good as i remember, but just a bit "raw" compared to the better models in the range. i suspect it would sell for around a grand nowadays, assuming the market was there.

**hifi_dave** · 05-10-2010, 09:27

Originally Posted by SPS

thats the one dave, there's a couple of transformers inside, silver endcaps

i dont have the wood stand though... do you know it?

darren,

i have a few other hobbys.. so i dont use my hi fi that often really

the record player got its first use since may, on saturday night...

last spring i bought a dynavector ultimo 30a, (what i believed to be a van den hul rebuild ? it has a 2009 brul & Kjoer print out, which i believe is their rebuild trademark ?)

that the best sounding cart i have at the moment.. i still have a soft spot for the m3d too..

any info is appreciated on any of my 'rare' bits..

cheers
steve

Yes, I bought one back in the 80's when Absolute Sounds first inported the original Koetsu. At that time it was marketed as Sugano's recommended transformer and I still have it.

Over the years I have compared it to many transformers, some at 20 x the price and it has always won hands down. It's seriously good.

Early on I replaced the silver Audionote lead with something better that doesn't break and I am using it to this day.

**SPS** · 05-10-2010, 10:45

Originally Posted by DSJR

That Kiseki Blue was good as i remember, but just a bit "raw" compared to the better models in the range. i suspect it would sell for around a grand nowadays, assuming the market was there.

thanks dave for that.. i turned down an offer of £250 a couple of years ago
i nearly accepted..
thanks

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