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    The BS standard are a guide, you are correct although those standards are more than a match for most CE directives. However UKCA & CE ( both High (above 50Vac) and Low voltage directives) are law and therefore anything mains cable without a fuse here or non compliance in any other aspect of that directive in the UK is breaking the law. Chinese CE is pretty much close to a chocholate teapot effectiveness for many ali express procured items no arguement from myself on that.

    As the company legal department points out, "Type approved CE the onus is on YOU to prove compliance in any court proceedings, where as granted CE approval the onus is on trading standards to prove you are making non compliant goods"

    So ANY public individual is entitled to view a build manual for products providing they are no patented or trade secrets which would be open to copying. However in a court of law all information is availible.

    You do have a build manual for said product I trust?

    The issues also arises if the fire causes loss of life and or damage to adjecent properties etc.

    Mind you I have always felt that any review sites should have to publish the CE documentation for any Product review by them


    Cables falling within the scope of the Low Voltage Directive (generally those from 50V up to 1000V AC) must be CE marked, the relevant EC Declarations of Conformity made and Technical Files created and held by the relevant party manufacturing the cables or placing them on the market in the EU.1


    I would suggest chatting to these guys in repsect of this Tim


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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    What does the plug look like?
    It looks nice. Be interesting if it does prove to be safe/compliant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony View Post
    It looks nice. Be interesting if it does prove to be safe/compliant.
    I can't open the link. Is there anyway you can copy and paste the image(s)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    I can't open the link. Is there anyway you can copy and paste the image(s)?
    Tbh Barry, I was just following on from CageyH's post - I couldn't get through the link either. It wanted me to open a Google account or something, and I'm way too lazy for that. And there's enough crap on my laptop as it is.
    I just dropped in, to see what condition my condition was in

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    Echo Dot, Amptastic Mini One,Arcam A75 integrated, Celestion 5's, BK XLS-200 DF

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    I can't open the link either
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    I can't open the link. Is there anyway you can copy and paste the image(s)?
    the links dont lead anywhere except to ones own dropbox, if you have one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony View Post
    Tbh Barry, I was just following on from CageyH's post - I couldn't get through the link either. It wanted me to open a Google account or something, and I'm way too lazy for that. And there's enough crap on my laptop as it is.
    My post was a bit of a tongue in cheek comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CageyH View Post
    My post was a bit of a tongue in cheek comment.
    Mine too!
    I just dropped in, to see what condition my condition was in

    T/T: Inspire Monarch, X200 tonearm, Ortofon Quintet Blue. Phono: Project Tube Box CD: Marantz CD6006 (UK Edition); Amp: Musical Fidelity A5 Integrated.
    Speakers: Zu Omen Def, REL T9i subwoofer. Cables: Atlas Equator interconnects, Atlas Hyper 3.0 speaker cables

    T'other system:
    Echo Dot, Amptastic Mini One,Arcam A75 integrated, Celestion 5's, BK XLS-200 DF

    A/V:
    LG 55" OLED, Panasonic Blu Ray, Sony a/v amp, MA Radius speakers, REL Storm sub

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    From Steve;
    Points taken, in this instance the innards are epoxy enclosed and although I am obviously not an approved testing house, my test results are enough to satisfy my conscience that these particular cables are SAFE!
    In addition my 15yrs of experience in the fire service lead me to look at the bigger picture, if a fire were to occur involving one of these leads it would be extremely difficult for the fire investigators to pin the source to the actual lead, and categorically determine it’s certified state, approved or not! As such they are sold for exclusive use on HiFi equipment and rated at 10 amps! Very few items of hifi are likely to draw anywhere near that!.
    Enough on that subject , thanks for those involved.

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