Johns Hopkins Medical Centre - World Coronavirus infection Map by Country.

[Marco]

That's a convenient thing for many to believe, could be true too. But I wondered who might gain from a hidden agenda?

Not the Chinese or America, they do monstrous amounts of trade with each other. Nor us and the EU, as the same applies in relation to China.

That really only leaves Russia and that's not as daft as it may sound. The Russians are going to lose huge amounts of money as electric cars and other advanced battery power uses grow, as they rely heavily on oil exports, which will continue to decline. And they are totally unscrupulous and ruthless and developing and releasing nasty little bugs and toxins into the world is one of their specialities (apparently).

It would have been easy for their agents to unleash something in Wuhan and watch as the finger of suspicion gets pointed in all the wrong directions.

An interesting theory, and possibly one deserving of further investigation. Plus of course, not long before Covid happened, there was the Novichok poisoning fiasco in Salisbury. In any case, I'm now calling bullshit on this thing having 'naturally occurred'.

*Someone* was responsible, and in due course, they will made made to pay royally for their heinous crimes. As I've said before, I'd vote for live hanging on TV, so that the families of all the innocent people around the world who've died from this virus can look him/her or them in the eye, just before their neck(s) snap, and wish that they rot in hell.

Marco.

[Macca]

Based on the history of vaccinations it's highly unlikely that there would be any long term side effects. Not certain but then very little is certain.

Anyone know of any vaccine, ever, for anything that had long terms side effects? I can't think of any and I've searched and can't find any.

[Marco]

Then why didn't we hear about blood clots sooner? Or did they know but didn't say? And if so, what else might they know about side-effects, short or long tern, but not want to tell us? Also, what *if* these vaccines indeed have an adverse effect on male fertility - how would it be proved? If true though, it would certainly be another side-effect!

I accept that blood clotting only occurred in a tiny percentage of people vaccinated, but some died because of it, and that could've been avoided if the vaccines had been tested more thoroughly among a wider sample base, or over a longer period of time, before releasing them for use to the whole of the world's population.

Marco.

[Bksabath]

BTW I read somewhere that China announced a relaxation on the 2 Children Rule
Please join me in whishing them many Prosperous (as in fat) and very tall Daughters
Those are quite expensive to marry and the most likely to be dumped on the street kerb

I agree 100 % the vaccine take a ridicule shorth time to be Approved
On the 26 January 2020 Fauci told the world “We will have a vaccine ready for phase 1 medical trials in 3 months “
Phase 1 is trials whit a small number of human subjects
They already know what was camming and already had a vaccine ready!
I already have posted this earlier and the last Russel Brand video make a perfect case for the tin hat theory that they put money before your well being

IMO, they have no interest in reducing male fertility there is no money to be made out of it.
Would take it whit a large pinch of salt bad news sell more news papers.

[Bksabath]

If you choose not to get the vaccine you can still protect yourself and others from the Fauci virus
Gogle up Vitamin D Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine

Off Topic The Government Is Selling Your Private Data - here’s how to STOP THEM!! - YouTube
To opt out
Make your choice about sharing data from your health records - NHS (www.nhs.uk)

And you need to send a letter to your GP
NHS Digital dissent form (medconfidential.org)

[Macca]

Then why didn't we hear about blood clots sooner? Or did they know but didn't say? And if so, what else might they know about side-effects, short or long tern, but not want to tell us? Also, what *if* these vaccines indeed have an adverse effect on male fertility - how would it be proved? If true though, it would certainly be another side-effect!

I accept that blood clotting only occurred in a tiny percentage of people vaccinated, but some died because of it, and that could've been avoided if the vaccines had been tested more thoroughly among a wider sample base, or over a longer period of time, before releasing them for use to the whole of the world's population.

Marco.

people die of blood clotting all the time, as far as I am aware there isn't yet an established link between the AZ vaccine and blood clotting, correlation isn't causation.

And the fertility thing is just a shot in the dark. He could just as well have said it reduces IQ, or hand-eye coordination. If he had any evidence he would have presented it. Seems pretty obvious to me he has some agenda of his own.

[Macca]

BTW I read somewhere that China announced a relaxation on the 2 Children Rule
Please join me in whishing them many Prosperous (as in fat) and very tall Daughters
Those are quite expensive to marry and the most likely to be dumped on the street kerb

I agree 100 % the vaccine take a ridicule shorth time to be Approved
On the 26 January 2020 Fauci told the world “We will have a vaccine ready for phase 1 medical trials in 3 months “
Phase 1 is trials whit a small number of human subjects
They already know what was camming and already had a vaccine ready!
I already have posted this earlier and the last Russel Brand video make a perfect case for the tin hat theory that they put money before your well being
.

They were able to do it so quickly because unlimited amounts of money and resources were thrown at it.

I've liked Russell Brand since I saw his excellent documentary about Jack Karouac, but he does talk al lot of bollocks about politics and society.

of course drug companies put money before our well-being, drug companies are the same as any other company, their sole purpose for existing is to make money. The flip side to that is they develop products that save lives and alleviate suffering. You can't have the latter without the former.

[struth]

people die of blood clotting all the time, as far as I am aware there isn't yet an established link between the AZ vaccine and blood clotting, correlation isn't causation.

And the fertility thing is just a shot in the dark. He could just as well have said it reduces IQ, or hand-eye coordination. If he had any evidence he would have presented it. Seems pretty obvious to me he has some agenda of his own.

in fact there is a much higher incidence of blood clotting if you catch covid. Also on testing, they used a faster but still as safe system of testing by running the tests at same time. all tests were still passed.

As for hydroxychloroquine, no evidence of it being of use has been found.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...390-8/fulltext

[Bksabath]

They were able to do it so quickly because unlimited amounts of money and resources were thrown at it.

I've liked Russell Brand since I saw his excellent documentary about Jack Karouac, but he does talk al lot of bollocks about politics and society.

of course drug companies put money before our well-being, drug companies are the same as any other company, their sole purpose for existing is to make money. The flip side to that is they develop products that save lives and alleviate suffering. You can't have the latter without the former.

You are definitive in your opinion
Would you consider the time it takes to?
Isolate the virus and study how it infects the host
Grow it in the lab and test that you have the same virus
Do trials and test it on humanised mice’s
Study the result and then manipulate the virus so to obtain a vaccine or use the recovered mice to develop antibodies and use those
Scale up the trials to repeat the experiments results till you get mice’s that when infected whit the virus will recover
Do the same test on something better EG monkeys
Once you are sure that it may work and is not lethal you start phase 1 trials
Yes, loads of money that is easy what about time?
Again, Fauci sez we have a vaccine ready to start phase 1 in 3 months from the 26^th of January 2020

At the time he was still telling that face masks did not work

About Russel brand yes agree 100% there are loads of alternative clips to watch maybe not as entertaining and the story is the same

Pharmaceutical companies also supress research and spread miss information about the effect off inexpensive readily available drugs and vitamins because they can not make money out of those

[walpurgis]

I can't bear Brand.