Speakers forum?

[magiccarpetride]

Maybe I'm mistaken, but I wasn't able to find any section dedicated to speakers on the art of sound. Correct? If yes, why don't we have a play pen/sandbox where we can exchange rapid fire lines/witticisms/recommendations/insults about our favorite speakers?

[Beechwoods]

There's no specific speaker forum Alex - but feel free to have any discussions about speak's right here in Blank Canvas The forum 'rooms' are intentionally pretty broad in their outlook so people don't get too tied up thinking in silo's - it's all about the whole!

[Marco]

Hi Alex,

Thanks for your feedback.

The key is in the description written under the Blank Canvas heading:

General hi-fi discussion. Anything not covered in the categories below goes here.

"Here" meaning in Blank Canvas. As speakers are not covered in any of the other room descriptions below Blank Canvas, then the above should be self-explanatory

Marco.

[Steve Toy]

It is deliberate. We wanted people to focus more on source and control components with the speakers acting as part of a system whole.

[magiccarpetride]

It is deliberate. We wanted people to focus more on source and control components with the speakers acting as part of a system whole.

Gotcha! thanks.

[Stratmangler]

Maybe I'm mistaken, but I wasn't able to find any section dedicated to speakers on the art of sound. Correct? If yes, why don't we have a play pen/sandbox where we can exchange rapid fire lines/witticisms/recommendations/insults about our favorite speakers?

Well I was wondering when you were going to get some speakers with decent drive units

[The Vinyl Adventure]

It is deliberate. We wanted people to focus more on source and control components with the speakers acting as part of a system whole.

Why is that then?
Speakers in combination with the room they are in seem to me to be the biggest variable...
Moving my room around or swaping speakers has a much greater effect than swaping my valve amp for this tripath I have been playing with lately ...
So why the focus on source and amps? ... Just interested like

[Marco]

Hamish, it's because people tend to focus sometimes too much on what their speakers are doing, and not enough on what's happening upstream.

Yes I agree that rearranging the layout of the equipment in your room or swapping speakers will have a more profound overall effect on the sound than swapping your valve amp, but only in terms of certain aspects of your system's presentation.

The source and control components, however, are where the essence of the music is derived, so nothing lost there can ever be 'retrieved' downstream, no matter how good the speaker/room interaction is

Marco.

[Steve Toy]

We have separate sections for digital sources, analogue sources and ancilliaries.

Amps, speakers and how they interact with each other and the room go into Blank Canvass.

[goraman]

Why is that then?
Speakers in combination with the room they are in seem to me to be the biggest variable...
Moving my room around or swaping speakers has a much greater effect than swaping my valve amp for this tripath I have been playing with lately ...
So why the focus on source and amps? ... Just interested like

Hammish,think of your whole audio system as a rocket leaveing the Earth for the Moon.If the Trajectory of the rocket becomes 5% off course near the very end of it's journey you will still land on the moon but you might not land in the exact spot you set your course for.
But if the trajectory is 5% off from the launch pad you will be lost in space.
If the source sucks how can amplifying a bad signal even with the best amp make it better? No, it can't.The speakers can't make it better and even in a great room it will still sound like crap.The further you go down the path the bigger the problem becomes.

Start with a great source and then get a better amp later better speakers.
Most people build there audio systum backwards but I was shown early on the mistakes in that approch.