Thanks Marco
I knew I was joining the right forum when I read the AoS Ethos
I'm thankful that there's an ongoing endeavour to maintain a measure of "Integrity" within the forum in order to temper, if not prevent, condescending self-righteous posts which cosset the indulgent egos of the Superiority Complex-afflicted and assuage the self-esteem of the defensive "over-compensating" Inferiority Complex-afflicted
To be fair, virtually all of us, to some degree, may fall into any one of the aforementioned complexes; I may even be an Inferiority Complex masquerading as a Superiority Complex!
However, Life is about finding one's Balance/Centre, avoid getting stuck at the byways; never truly arriving at "Self-Realisation"
Regards,
Malek
It always great when you get that giant step in performance that brings you closer to the music
I think the bass on Tim stand mounts )My Clapton Speakers) is pretty good; stand mounts will always be limited in good bass by physics but a really nice coherent sound
Tim a real gent to deal with
I would also say get the best speakers you can for your room and music taste and build the system around it, sideway logic I know but works for me
Loves anything from Pain of Salvation to Jeff Buckley to Django to Sarasate to Surinder Sandhu to Shawn Lane to Nick Drake to Rush to Beth Hart to Kate Bush to Rodrigo Y Gabriela to The Hellecasters to Dark Sanctury to Ben Harper to Karicus to Dream Theater to Zero Hour to Al DiMeola to Larry Carlton to Derek Trucks to Govt Mule to?
Humour: One of the few things worth taking seriously
Hello Steve,
I've fond memories of the SCM 20's. In fact, they were the first speakers that drew my attention to ATC. It was about 20 years ago, while I was walking through the hallways of a hotel during a Hi-Fi show, looking through doorways to see past the obscuring mass of bodies, trying to get a glimpse of what was being exhibited in each room, when suddenly...
...beguiling realistic-sounding music stopped me in my tracks, causing me to pause a moment, to gauge where the sound was coming from...
It about three or four doorways away, in one of the bigger rooms where Musical Fidelity was debuting their first "monster" power amp. I can't recall what was it called; I just remember them to be so massive-looking, taking centre stage on the floor, driving what I expected to be massive floorstanders as well. To my surprise the MF was driving a pair of standmounts from a brand I'd never paid much attention to before, due to the mundane name and prior lack of exposure
I was stunned that something so "small" was able to draw me in, from so far out in the hallway, with it's siren song. Surely, the real speakers were somewhere else and I was actually looking at a static display!?
It was only on closer inspection that I realised that the mid/bass driver looks different from the run-of-the-mill drivers I normally see. Those were the biggest "centre domes" (relative to the rest of the driver) I've ever seen!!
And so, that was how one (amongst a select few) unforgettable Hi-Fi audio moment, came into being
Regards,
Malek
My gripe with most speakers is that they are just unable to even acknowledge the presence of some bass notes. I use a audio spectrum analyser between my DAC and my power amp in order to track the audio excursions on the analyser display versus the speaker cone excursions. I have a wide range of tracks that clearly indicate the presence of sub bass, but are impossible to detect with anything other than a subwoofer. In my mind, that's both a loss in quality and quantity of the bass when 'ordinary' speakers can't even register those missing frequencies.
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Indeed Malek, the bass drivers on ATCs are a bit of an engineering tour de force. I'd heard that the SCM20s could handle loads of power (and need some due to their low sensitivity) and I had my doubts.... until I took my first look at the bass driver which looked almost indestructible!
Other than very low bass, a very 'honest' speaker, though not one that would make any bones about revealing a crappy recording for what it was!
Steve aka 'Twelvebears' (it's a long story)
System: Technics 1210 Mk5, Jelco 750 arm, AT33EV via MF X-LP2 Phono Stage, Oyaide mat and record clamp. SB Touch via Marantz PM-11S1 amp and Wilson Benesch A.C.T. speakers. Mark Grant cables and PS Audio Power Plant Premier mains regenerator.
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Hi Stan.
Having spent a good deal of time recently listening to my AKG701s, I understand what you mean. Hearing deep, clean bass without the compromises so often common to loudspeakers, is very addictive.
That said, having your cake and eating it (i.e. truly deep bass but without any of the compromises (boom, detached one note bass, slowness etc), isn't easy (or cheap!) to achieve with speakers. So as I say, if I have to choose, I'd go for quality rather than ultimate extension.
Steve aka 'Twelvebears' (it's a long story)
System: Technics 1210 Mk5, Jelco 750 arm, AT33EV via MF X-LP2 Phono Stage, Oyaide mat and record clamp. SB Touch via Marantz PM-11S1 amp and Wilson Benesch A.C.T. speakers. Mark Grant cables and PS Audio Power Plant Premier mains regenerator.
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Understand Stan
Since my cabinet upgrade I been hearing bass I did not was on the recordings
Getting good clean bass is not easy but need not be expensive.
Loves anything from Pain of Salvation to Jeff Buckley to Django to Sarasate to Surinder Sandhu to Shawn Lane to Nick Drake to Rush to Beth Hart to Kate Bush to Rodrigo Y Gabriela to The Hellecasters to Dark Sanctury to Ben Harper to Karicus to Dream Theater to Zero Hour to Al DiMeola to Larry Carlton to Derek Trucks to Govt Mule to?
Humour: One of the few things worth taking seriously
I've been swapping interconnects around for the past couple of weeks and found that a pair of solid silver interconnects (either twixt pre and power amp or twixt CD player and pre) gave much less level in the mid-bass and no deep bass at all. Swapped to Audioquest Turqouise (silver plated copper I think)- Bass returned immediately. Not a subtle difference at all.
Current Lash Up:
TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.