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    Hi everyone. I've had a pair of Goodmans 201 12" fullrange drivers and a pair of Eico EL-84 mono integrated amps (HF-81, maybe? Can't remember...) in a closet for years. Getting it all up and running will take some doing, but it could sound great. Or not. Is it worth the effort?
    Randy.

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    I'll look after the Eico's for you, & so I think would Andre if he was here!
    Is this the one?



    The HF-81 is stereo though isn't it?

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    The HF-12 was mono, I think - maybe this is the type you have?
    Either way, they were great amps - sweet sounding little beauties.


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    Yes, they looks like Chris's pic -- thanks! I took 'em apart to rebuilt them, then got part-way through and got in over my head. I suspect I could get them going with a little patience, but I bought a pair of Spendor SP2s that give me the warm and forgiving character I looked to tubes for, so I'm not sure my heart's really in it. I'll probably end up selling to someone looking for a project. And it look like those Goodman's drivers need a monster of an enclosure. Has anyone here ever heard those things properly up and running in a suitable enclosure. Maybe I could turn my garage into a bass hornhttp://s560.photobucket.com/albums/ss49/aos_images/smilies/3637.gif
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    Randy - if there wasn't an ocean between us, and if times were a little different for me than they are just now, I'd take them off your hands in heartbeat. I've wanted to own an Eico amp since I was about 6 years old!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Grand Wazoo View Post
    Randy - if there wasn't an ocean between us, and if times were a little different for me than they are just now, I'd take them off your hands in heartbeat. I've wanted to own an Eico amp since I was about 6 years old!
    That good eh Chris? Don't wish to sound flippant, but Eico are little known to me. Now if it was an early Marantz ....!

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    Barry

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    All I can tell you is that when I had them running, before I decided to rebuild them, they had a nice, open sound with a very pleasant tubey "glow," but without the slow and syrupy sound of some larger tube amps.
    Randy.

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    Chris, if I could, I'd send 'em to you! And I know how you feel; I always wanted a pair of Royds. Had a big PRaT fixation when I was younger, and had or heard Diamonds and Kans and Minums, and Kytes, but never Royds.
    Randy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barry.d.hunt View Post
    That good eh Chris? Don't wish to sound flippant, but Eico are little known to me. Now if it was an early Marantz ....!

    Regards
    Barry,
    Eico (Electronic Instrument Corp) were a New York company & paralleled Heathkit and, I suppose Radford in a way, in that they started out building lab & test gear & branched out into hi-fi later, selling both kit & built components. I don't think very much of it ended up over here, though.

    The amp I knew when I was a kid was the first pictured one - the HF-81 & it was a 14 watt Williamson based circuit with EL84's. It's become a bit of a cult item of late in the US & I was able to hear one again just a few years ago on one of our visits over there. My impression was that it was every bit as good as it's reputation may have you believe. I think I'm right in saying that there was an HF-86 that had the same power circuit but just came as a power amp

    The other model, I pictured - the HF-12, which Randy appears to own was similar but mono & with a slightly less sophisticated pre-amp circuit. There was also a power amp version of this, the HF-14 which came on an open chassis like the HF-86.

    There was also a range of higher powered amps, some of which I've had the pleasure of spending some short periods with, although I did slightly prefer these little integrated units' sweeter presentation.

    Believe it or not Barry, I actually truly believe that they could give those early Marantz units a good run for their money!


    Here's a page from the catalogue showing two of the big 'uns:


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    Great stuff Chris! Most informative.

    Randy,I've heard Goodman's speakers in open baffles made by Steve (SPS) who posts here.They are superb,and well worth fiddling with IMO.Perhaps Steve will comment.

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