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    Anyway, here's the lyrics of 'All I Want for Christmas (Is A Dukla Prague Away Kit)' by the mighty HMHB to get us back on a footy track:

    'There was one in the gang who had Scalextric
    And because of that he thought he was better than you
    Every day after school you’d go round there to play it
    Hoping to compete for some kind of championship
    But it always took about fifteen billion hours to set the track up
    And even when you did the thing never seemed to work

    It was a dodgy transformer again and again
    A dodgy transformer again and again
    It was a dodgy transformer again and again
    A dodgy transformer that cost three pound ten

    So he’d send his doting mother up the stairs with the stepladders
    To get the Subbuteo out of the loft
    He had all the accessories required for that big match atmosphere
    The crowd and the dugout and the floodlights too
    You’d always get palmed off with a headless centre forward
    And a goalkeeper with no arms and a face like his
    And he’d managed to get hold of a Dukla Prague away kit
    ‘Cos his uncle owned a sports shop and he’d kept it to one side
    And after only five minutes you’d be down to ten men
    ‘Cos he’d sent off your right back for taking the base from under his left winger
    And come to half time you were losing four-nil
    Each and every goal a hotly disputed penalty
    So you’d smash up the floodlights and the match was abandoned
    And the dog would bark and you’d be banned from his house
    And your travelling army of synthetic supporters
    Would be taken away from you and thrown in the bin

    Now he’s working in a job with a future
    He hands me my Giro every two weeks
    And me I’m on the lookout for a proper transformer …errr'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherwood View Post
    BTW

    I still don't understand why Scotland did not choose independence. I am currently living in the East Midlands and given the choice I would choose to be independent from a London centric government

    I think the Union is living on borrowed time and a republic is only a generation away!

    On that calming note .....

    Geoff
    You haven't met many SNP members have you?

    I've been arguing with these loony tunes since I was at school in the 70s, the majority of them are odd in the extreme.

    The SNP started off as a Fascist party and its worthies in the 30s were perfectly willing to cut a deal with Hitler in return for Scottish independence. The blitz on London was famously welcomed by the Scottish nationalist poet Hugh Macdiarmid and he was lucky to escape internment (some of his fellow travellers, deemed to be more dangerous, were indeed interned).

    My maternal grandfather (only second generation Scots himself and born in the 1890s - his parents were both Irish) called them the 'F ****g Covenanters' which if you know your Scottish history was not a compliment. Their role in the events of the 1640s - often erroneously described as the English Civil War ... most Scots are unaware that control of Scotland was under the control of forces loyal to Cromwell for the duration of the war and its aftermath - was quite significant, and indeed quite enduring.

    Of course their political completion and religious affiliations have changed, in my view mainly out of expediency relating to the 'cause' (there's a weird irony in the way Catholic bishops now suck up to the SNP, while it's the Orange order unfortunately who are carrying the torch for 'Unionism' - changing the sense and usage of the word in the process). But still, their membership (and I include some dear family members in this) remain a bunch of swivel-eyed nutters with no point or principle other than some dubious notion of 'freedom' - for many of them (not all, but a significant minority) based either on anti-English bigotry or historical, economic and cultural ignorance.

    I have and will never have any time for petty nationalisms such as that expounded by the SNP.

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    From the mock-history programme 'Cunk on Britain' (the presenter is questioning a Scottish academic about the Scots' wish for independence)

    'How come the Scottish hate the English so much, when no-one in England gives a fuck about Scotland?'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    From the 'Rough Guide'

    'Leaving the Democratic Republic Of East Midlands: You will be required to pay an exit tax. This is currently (as of 2018) 2 carrots.'
    Unless you are heading east into Lincolnshire where the tariff is 2 spuds!

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    Quote Originally Posted by montesquieu View Post
    You haven't met many SNP members have you?

    I've been arguing with these loony tunes since I was at school in the 70s, the majority of them are odd in the extreme.

    The SNP started off as a Fascist party and its worthies in the 30s were perfectly willing to cut a deal with Hitler in return for Scottish independence. The blitz on London was famously welcomed by the Scottish nationalist poet Hugh Macdiarmid and he was lucky to escape internment (some of his fellow travellers, deemed to be more dangerous, were indeed interned).

    My maternal grandfather (only second generation Scots himself and born in the 1890s - his parents were both Irish) called them the 'F ****g Covenanters' which if you know your Scottish history was not a compliment. Their role in the events of the 1640s - often erroneously described as the English Civil War ... most Scots are unaware that control of Scotland was under the control of forces loyal to Cromwell for the duration of the war and its aftermath - was quite significant, and indeed quite enduring.

    Of course their political completion and religious affiliations have changed, in my view mainly out of expediency relating to the 'cause' (there's a weird irony in the way Catholic bishops now suck up to the SNP, while it's the Orange order unfortunately who are carrying the torch for 'Unionism' - changing the sense and usage of the word in the process). But still, their membership (and I include some dear family members in this) remain a bunch of swivel-eyed nutters with no point or principle other than some dubious notion of 'freedom' - for many of them (not all, but a significant minority) based either on anti-English bigotry or historical, economic and cultural ignorance.

    I have and will never have any time for petty nationalisms such as that expounded by the SNP.
    The problem is that those in London and the South East have no concept of how different attitudes are north of the Watford Gap and the resentment caused by so much of public investment being for the benefit of the Home Counties. I live in an ex-mining village where Socialism is not a dirty word. The Scots have a completely different mindset to London and its environs and only voted to stay because of threats and already broken false promises. Fool me once .....

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    The advantage of London/The South East is that the region gives everyone else in the UK somewhere to hate, whilst simultaneously subsidising every other part of the UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherwood View Post
    Unless you are heading east into Lincolnshire where the tariff is 2 spuds!
    Was - it's gone up to 4 spuds (if you can get anyone to pick them....)

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    Whatever happened to Spudulike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe View Post
    The advantage of London/The South East is that the region gives everyone else in the UK somewhere to hate, whilst simultaneously subsidising every other part of the UK.
    Easy to generate wealth when you control investment and it's almost all inward!

    Geoff

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    It seems the debate has reached the BBC

    "Do Scottish football fans really want to see England fail in Russia?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/artic...c-c2d46173a856
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