I wonder about that too. I think that the fluid loosens the dirt in the bottom of the grooves then it gets sucked up in solution. I've managed to get really bad records clean and playing through without any flaws, and I'm talking about records so encrusted in crud you would think they had been down a mine. It does take a lot of cleaning though, and if the grooves are damaged, that's it. But there's no question it does clean to the bottom eventually.
My only bit of advice is don't be sparing with the jollop. Pour it on don't spray it on, you can't use too much, and then get a good bow wave going with the brush
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Of course, but I wonder what the non-alcohol based fluids comprise. Is L'Art du Son detergent based or enzyme based ? They all seemingly do what they say on the can, but in different ways. Another benefit of the IPA mix, and surely not an insignificant one, is cost. Three benefits of IPA, then.
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most cleaners on the market contain both a surfactant and ipa.a surfactant is both a wetting agent and detergent.
for example i use triton x.
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John Wood KT88 Amp.
Paradise Phono Stage
Sony TTS-8000 Turntable.
PMAT-1010 MK6 Tonearm.
Ortofon Cadenza Bronze
Sony X555ES Cd Player
Yamaha NS1000m Speakers
here's a good recipe to start you off paul, https://londonjazzcollector.wordpres...r-vacuum-rcms/
My System
John Wood KT88 Amp.
Paradise Phono Stage
Sony TTS-8000 Turntable.
PMAT-1010 MK6 Tonearm.
Ortofon Cadenza Bronze
Sony X555ES Cd Player
Yamaha NS1000m Speakers
There's another thread somewhere about L'Art du Son, it's detergent based I think, but it seems fungi can grow in it, my own bottle (which I got free with the Loricraft) was full of floaters when I checked - it went in the bin. Anyway I didn't like it I thought it left a residue which even 2-3 rinses didn't get rid of.
I have three lots of fluid available, a proprietary Enzyme Cleaner ('Plus' brand), my own cocktail of IPA-based cleaner which I apply with a spray (similar to the recipe just posted) and a water rinse with a few drops of photographic agent as surfactant, as in the IPA-based cleaner. I only use the enzyme one when it's clearly needed .. I generally use a two-step process on the Loricraft - IPA brush + clean, water brush and clean.
I am also on the Degritter (one button ultrasonic cleaner) beta programme (I have a beta2 machine here at home) I find that this works very well and is particularly good on new vinyl, which often has crap in the grooves. Every so often I think to myself that I could live with just this on its own, but then I come across some some second-hand record that's particularly mucky/greasy and I'm glad I have the Loricraft to run it through first before putting it in the Degritter, as that would likely take a few passes to clean something that filthy whereas the alcohol + vacuum approach gets it clean enough for the Degritter to finish the hob. As a combo they pair are unbeatable.
Will see what the final production version brings before I make a decision. They both have their plus points.
What i like about the Project is that is doesn’t have a platter, when you clean the second side you aren’t laying the clean side down on the dirty platter. When I had the VPI, I cut a circle out of a vinyl record sleeve and laid over the cork platter to keep the first side clean. You can’t press down as hard on the record as you can with a platter, but I’m not sure that’s actually helping clean the record anyway.
Russell
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I'm Johan.
I want to post pictures of my Ultrasonic-DIY-dirt-cheap record-cleaner. Can anyone tell me how to post pictures?
johan,have a read here. http://theartofsound.net/forum/showt...-in-your-posts
My System
John Wood KT88 Amp.
Paradise Phono Stage
Sony TTS-8000 Turntable.
PMAT-1010 MK6 Tonearm.
Ortofon Cadenza Bronze
Sony X555ES Cd Player
Yamaha NS1000m Speakers