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    Hi,

    About a week ago I was given (for free) a pair of TDL Reference Standard TL speakers. Cabinet and grills are in almost pristine condition but all woofers and some of the midrange drivers require replacement (scratching coils) but its been impossible to source replacements either Falcon Acoustics, Wilmslow Audio, or Lockwood Audio. Originally I thought drivers were KEFs B139s and B110s but later found out they were sourced by ELAC, and similar drivers with different impedances are used.

    Any advise will be appreciated since I'm not too keen on letting these pair rot in a landfill.
    Vic
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    You should be able to get the drivers repaired
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    How badly are the woofers scratching? (Flea bite or full on DJ onslaught? )

    If it isn't a lot try turning the speaker units through 180 degrees to see if there is sag on the suspension.

    Walpurgis has used more extreme methods to centralise motor units, maybe he can provide a link to it.

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    Getting the drivers you have refurbished would seem to be the logical course. I've got a pair of the old TLS50 and they are pretty serious 'speakers. I'd expect those TDLs to be even better so well worth doing of you want some speakers that have loads of power in the bass.
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    TDL drivers may have been made at Elac to start with, but I'm not sure this was always the case, especially later on.

    PLEASE - if you can store the cabinets for now, it'll eventually be to your advantage I think if you can't find proper replacement drivers. I cannot say more right now except to ask you not to give up hope just now
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSJR View Post
    TDL drivers may have been made at Elac to start with, but I'm not sure this was always the case, especially later on.
    I'm pretty sure some were provided by Celestion/KEF.

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    Wow free? Excellent. 20hz anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aquapiranha View Post
    Wow free? Excellent. 20hz anyone?
    Will they do 20Hz? That would require a folded acoustic line of around 13 feet length (assuming output continues into LF roll-off).

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Will they do 20Hz? That would require a folded acoustic line of around 13 feet length (assuming output continues into LF roll-off).
    Sorry I was mistaken. Quoted is 16Hz!

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