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    So, I'm in a pickle. I'm designing a new plinth for my Lenco L75. The original idea was to have a simple heavy mass decouple tonearm pod which would mount my Alphason tonearm, hopefully job done and no more vibration from the motor into the tonearm. I've now been playing with Panzerholz and have found it to be very beneficial on my Garrard 301 so the question I have to ask is do you think that a coupled (to the decks top plate) 25mm thick tonearm board of Panzerholz will be sufficient to eliminate any vibrations from the motor getting up into the tonearm?
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    What is Panzerholz

    See the link , looks interesting

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    I think that a fully decoupled arm board would be best, but a Panzerholz plate could also be good if you stiffened the underside of the Lenco’s top plate. It just seems to be made from a depressed metal plate. Maybe you could stiffen the underside with some Panzerholz or heavy steel plate cut to fit snuggly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie123 View Post
    thanks. I just did a quick search over on LH and there are 60 threads about the subject. Looks like I've my work cut out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Primalsea View Post
    I think that a fully decoupled arm board would be best, but a Panzerholz plate could also be good if you stiffened the underside of the Lenco’s top plate. It just seems to be made from a depressed metal plate. Maybe you could stiffen the underside with some Panzerholz or heavy steel plate cut to fit snuggly.
    it's already been stiffened with marine resin. I might be able to put some panzerholz under the tonearm mount on the underside of the top plate, good idea. Thanks.
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    Out of interest Andrew, how does a L75 compare to a Garrard 301/401?

    Any thoughts, as you have both?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primalsea View Post
    Out of interest Andrew, how does a L75 compare to a Garrard 301/401?

    Any thoughts, as you have both?
    i will answer a bit later if that's ok, I'm in the middle of work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by REXTON View Post
    i will answer a bit later if that's ok, I'm in the middle of work.
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    If your going to the expense of Panzer plinth, a PTP would be better place to start than L75 top plate.

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