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    Great stuff chaps many thanks
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    Rega fono mini

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    Quote Originally Posted by Floyddroid View Post
    Great stuff chaps many thanks
    I have one that I bought to transfer some vinyl of mine but never managed to get round to it. PM me if you are interested in taking it off me for a small sum.

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    Audiophiles seem much less snobby about Behringer gear than musos, but in terms of bang for buck they're hard to beat

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Behringer-U.../dp/B002GHBYZ0

    If you're after something much better, get a decent phono preamp, or use the tape outs on your amp of choice, and run them in to a decent 2 channel audio interface that's priced to taste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rothchild View Post
    Audiophiles seem much less snobby about Behringer gear than musos, but in terms of bang for buck they're hard to beat

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Behringer-U.../dp/B002GHBYZ0

    If you're after something much better, get a decent phono preamp, or use the tape outs on your amp of choice, and run them in to a decent 2 channel audio interface that's priced to taste.
    Couldn't agree more. If you wouldn't use a phono pre in your main system, why would you choose to digitise using it? Use the best phono pre you can get your hands on, and use a decent ADC (like the Linestreamer I mentioned above) to do the digitisation.
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    Steve
    I take the output from my phono stage into a Tascam 144mk2 Midi Interface which is an ADC and it outputs USB to my PC
    I use Audacity to record to digital, only pain is having to manually split up and name your tag data but that goes for all software AFAIK.
    The Tascam works well but its a few years old now and they may be something better out there ?.
    Your welcome to borrow mine and see what you think just call round for it

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    There are some more specialised apps for vinyl ripping, which help take the PITA out of having to split, title and catalogue all the generated files.

    For instance: http://www.alpinesoft.co.uk/vinylstu...it_screen.aspx

    I recall someone posting a very good looking one a couple of years ago but cant remember who and which board! Sorry! (It had a lookup function for the track names etc etc so you just told it what album it was looking at and it split at all the silences and appended titles and so on).

    In terms of recording, then once you've got your hardware set you may do well to start off with a test disc that has tones at known levels, so you can calibrate the gain structure of your recording chain. Regardless of the endless (circular) discussions here there is more headroom in even a 16 bit digital recording than there is cut in to your vinyl so make sure you leave a decent amount of headroom (shoot for an average of around -18dBFS on the meter in the computer with peaks no higher than about -6dBFS) if the meter hits the red in the computer it'd fuxed and you'll need to start again.

    You can of course play with post processing your recordings, for instance you might elect to 'normalize' them to a set level, which may help with consistency across your recordings. Of course you could get really carried away and remaster the whole lot with eq, compression (possibly multiband) and / or limiting too.

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    Pure vinyl 5 does this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    Pure vinyl 5 does this.
    Yeah that's the sort of thing, although it appears to be mac only (which may or may not be an issue).

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    Was an add in to audacity. Perfect tunes or sommat like that which adds art etc. Not tried it tho. I fancied doing it but macs seem to get the best software.
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