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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    Likewise is a £26K Patek-Philipe wristwatch any better than a £5K Rolex, do either keep time any better than say a £3 digital? No, people buy expensive clothes, cars and jewellery because it makes a statement about who they are and the image they like to present of themselves, regardless of any consideration of 'taste'.
    I completely agree with the post this quote was taken from. However, in terms of the above, I don't think a valid comparison can be drawn between watches and hi-fi equipment, certainly in the sense you mean, simply because nice watches, by their very nature, *are* a form of jewellery, thus are designed to be 'shown off' or admired.

    Hi-fi equipment, quite simply isn't a form of jewellery, and so shouldn't be treated as such, unless you're a pretentious fool!

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    I like blingy watches, except for the modern style of having an enormous dial, that just looks stupid to me.

    But I like my hi-fi equipment to look functional and purposeful, if possible. What it looks like wouldn't put me off buying it if the sound was what I wanted and the price was right. So it isn't a deal breaker for me if it has gold stripes and all that crap all over it. But I'd prefer not to have that, all else being equal.

    On the other hand I always liked the look of the Marantz 'champagne gold' finish kit. Which is a bit 'Abu Dhabi' I know. Maybe I'm just confused?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    I like blingy watches, except for the modern style of having an enormous dial, that just looks stupid to me.
    You'd get on well with Snapper, although he's also into the 'enormous dial' thing... I'm the complete opposite, not a big watch guy and DETEST bling.

    However, if I had to chose something nice, I'd go for a classic timepiece [and definitely analogue], such as a vintage Submariner, or something more modern, simple, but stylish, from Rolex or Patek Philippe (in that order below)...

    The daddy of all vintage watches:



    Rolex Oyster Air King, from 2016 - just gorgeous:



    Patek Philippe 5205G:



    On the wrist:



    I like simple, timeless elegance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    I like blingy watches, except for the modern style of having an enormous dial, that just looks stupid to me
    I don't like 'blingy' anything, never have and I stopped wearing a watch many years ago.

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    I'm not a 'watch guy' by any stretch of the imagination. I like Rolexes. I bought a fancy Pulsar (a division of Seiko) for myself for my 30th birthday and have had it ever since. Can't afford a Rolex even second hand. But I do like to wear a watch, I don't feel right without one.
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    I bought my Submariner in 1970 and love it. It isn't a very large watch and having skinny arms, it's about right. One of the huge watches would look daft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    But I do like to wear a watch, I don't feel right without one.
    That's how I felt when I first stopped wearing one. But I got used to the idea quickly enough. Since I retired, I realised I simply don't often need to know the time and when I'm out the phone tells me that if need be and there's clock in the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hifi_dave View Post
    I bought my Submariner in 1970 and love it. It isn't a very large watch and having skinny arms, it's about right. One of the huge watches would look daft.
    I also have skinny little wrists so I'm stuck for that. But those huge watches would look daft on Popeye, never mind me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    I'm not a 'watch guy' by any stretch of the imagination. I like Rolexes.
    I like tasteful, unpretentious looking Rolex watches, such as I've shown. The rest, especially those huge shiny gold monstrosities, worn by the vulgar nouveau riche and chav lottery winners, you can keep!

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    The question of taste, and what good taste is, is interesting.
    Is it just subjective, and there are no criteria by which to judge aesthetics?

    Yesterday I went to Eastbourne and whilst there searched for clothes, my becoming fed up with wearing old rags, and I expressed the view to another shopkeeper, that in Primark what was on offer seemed to be alluding to being highly expensive designer brands, but to me was insufficiently well done to be convincing. The result was that it all looked like cheap copies.

    I like simple well cut clothes, a good example being Levi 501s, and not the prevalent ubiquitous plastic stuff, ill fitting and cut from tubular cloth into lengths, stitched to smaller similar ones for the arms for example.

    Much of this stuff seems not to be liked by buyers and ends up in charity shops, where it can be purchased really cheaply.

    In my youth great emphasis was placed on 'good taste', and it seemed to be composed of well made, subdued in style, (not loud), and in the case of clothes, well cut. Any views?

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