I don’t know about your budget, but I would say keep an eye out for some used Heco Direkt speakers, good sound, dynamic etc. FWIW.
I don’t know about your budget, but I would say keep an eye out for some used Heco Direkt speakers, good sound, dynamic etc. FWIW.
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I've seen those. They look to be a helluva lot of speaker for the money. I can imagine them being an even bigger bargain used. I didn't set any budget because I wasn't just asking for myself. It was more to get some general suggestions for speakers with a large scale sound with realistic bass and dynamics for hundreds rather than thousands.
I think it's a pity that lots of people today may only get to hear small bookshelf speakers or slim floorstanders with a pair of 4 inch drivers. Taking a punt on big Tannoys isn't always viable or possible , especially when you've never experienced what a big speaker can do. I had hoped the thread would flag up some bargains for anyone wanting to try a bigger speaker, including myself in the future. So far there have been a good few suggestions I wouldn't have thougt of, so I hope it's of interest to others too.
It's a great question. I have had two (REL) subwoofers myself and really liked the scale. As good as My Isobariks but perhaps a bit different. The thing is, I haven't heard big Tannoys or JBLS so I am as interested as you are as to whether they produce more scale, dynamics, SPLs etc than a standmounters with sub. I guess we will need to hear from a big speaker enthusiast who has also tried subs.
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Have had standmounts with with a couple of 15in Ruark subs (way back in the mists ...) Tannoys are room-filling in a different way - I'd rather enjoy that all-enveloping, phase-coherent dual concentric sound from Tannoys with 5hz less on bottom end extension, than standmounts with subs and a little bit extra depth. That's not to nay-say it as an approach it can sound very satisfying - just expressing a preference.
I've never heard smaller speakers with subwoofers make a sound I actually like, at least in a domestic setting. You get the bass depth and weight, but somehow the SLAM is not there. And yes, I have tried a few subs and heard plenty others. I even tried one with my Tannoy Cheviots, that was just silly and I stayed with it for about ten minutes.
Of course there are set-ups that can deliver, like this from Avant Garde (But, cheap it ain't!) The big silver thingy is a set of bass horns.
This lot is huge. Twice as big in the flesh than it looks in the picture.
Very well described. I can get what you are saying and it's what I suspected but wouldn't have been able to put into words.
I certainly wasn't trying to be argumentative, but did intend to express strongly that I don't think it is possible to achieve what you are looking for at a low price, unless you happen to come across a second hand item where the seller does not appreciate the market value.
Yes, DC Tannoys are great and shift air effortlessly with the right amp. I personally, have heard few two- way systems that sound better (overall) for the addition of a sub-woofer. I am guessing that this is down to timing and coherence issues.
I do own some "smallish" speakers that do sound "big" though they are what I would describe as "good value" but certainly not cheap.
Perhaps, the cheapest speakers I have ever heard that really sounded "big" were a home built pair of open baffles. This was in a huge lounge with plenty of space all around. I can't be certain of the driver as it was a long time ago but it was at least a 12" dual concentric full-range driver (possibly german). The frame was pretty large and superbly make using marine grade plywood. IIRC, the whole thing cost abut £500 to make, not including the time of the maker. Of course, once you start to look at traditional designs such as big DC Tannoys, the cost of cabinet manufacture drives costs up exponentially.
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