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    Quote Originally Posted by DSJR View Post
    Best I can come up with is Isobariks sounding so smeared most of the time, it didn't matter what the wiring was to them. If you had them out of phase with each other and in a reasonable size room, it didn't seem to matter.. The active version could be even worse, as inverting the phase of the mids or tweets from the bass, made little difference in the large dem room our London store had...
    I won't ask you which London store that was, but when I heard the Isobaraks at a well-known emporium in Wigmore Street, and commented/complained that the sound was unfocused and 'swimming about', the demonstrator simply replied: "How do you know it's not meant to sound like that?".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    I won't ask you which London store that was, but when I heard the Isobaraks at a well-known emporium in Wigmore Street, and commented/complained that the sound was unfocused and 'swimming about', the demonstrator simply replied: "How do you know it's not meant to sound like that?".
    He he he, or: 'are you sure that your Isobariks are set up properly? No one really knows how...'

    I've heard crazy things like 'if you move them, you need to wait until they settle down'.

    Such is the folklore associated with some Linn gear...
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    Sounds surprisingly good!
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    sounds like cher
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    Default Today I kept turning up my Sub-woofer

    I started with gain and cutoff on minimum on my right subwoofer today...
    Gently turning it up, with the music on, listening carefully with my ear close... nope nothing yet
    Put some other bassy music on and kept turning it up... still no bass from it...
    Kept turning it up, thinking maybe I mis-wired it ? kept turning up... with my hand now gently on the cone edge waiting for it to vibrate..
    should be thumping a bit by now.... this thing is dead !

    Looked at the mains switch... duh, on the OFF position !

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    Sounds like Pro Rock
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    Then later on I heard a story about some therapist who was working with a blind and mentally disabled woman who was at that time in her forties. Part of his therapy was to play music while working with her. Well, the storyline goes that each time he'd put a CD on the patient would complain loudly, and if he would then switch to the turntable, she would smile.
    I believe this 'myth' has some basis in fact - if I remember rightly it appears in the fascinating book Perfecting Sound Forever.
    I don't have the book to hand at this moment but there's a story in there about a therapist who was using music as part of his treatment of patients with depression and anxiety. This was in the early 80s and he was having great results using vinyl LPs. In the late 80s he switched to CDs, using the same music, and the therapy no longer worked! The patients no longer reported getting the same benefits from the music when it was played as 16 bit/44.1kHz digital.

    On a related point, I read an interview with Tim de Paravicini recently where he said he had calculated that if we wish digital playback to equal analog reproduction we would have to use a resolution of 24 bit/400kHz.
    I wonder if digital would then have the same therapeutic benefits as analog again?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickbaba View Post
    I believe this 'myth' has some basis in fact - if I remember rightly it appears in the fascinating book Perfecting Sound Forever.
    I don't have the book to hand at this moment but there's a story in there about a therapist who was using music as part of his treatment of patients with depression and anxiety. This was in the early 80s and he was having great results using vinyl LPs. In the late 80s he switched to CDs, using the same music, and the therapy no longer worked! The patients no longer reported getting the same benefits from the music when it was played as 16 bit/44.1kHz digital.

    On a related point, I read an interview with Tim de Paravicini recently where he said he had calculated that if we wish digital playback to equal analog reproduction we would have to use a resolution of 24 bit/400kHz.
    I wonder if digital would then have the same therapeutic benefits as analog again?!
    CD players have moved on considerably since the '80s. I heard the early ones and they were dire in comparison to LPs. These days I think that both are equally good in their own ways; different in presentation, but just as good. (And just as amazing, in that a satisfying and emotionally involving sound is wrought from two seemingly clumsy replay technologies.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    CD players have moved on considerably since the '80s. I heard the early ones and they were dire in comparison to LPs. These days I think that both are equally good in their own ways; different in presentation, but just as good. (And just as amazing, in that a satisfying and emotionally involving sound is wrought from two seemingly clumsy replay technologies.)
    I agree with that Barry. Both can be very enjoyable done right.

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