10 audiophile myths busted

[CageyH]

You bet he was - and there are plenty of forums out there where you will find coffee zealots galore trying to convert you to their faith and decrying all manner of heinous sins committed against the holy bean by the foul mechanics of shoddy manufacturer' products. If you ain't got a burr grinder, you ain't grinding!! ... and not only that, the burrs MUST be ceramic - none of your cheap cast iron shit!!!

If you fon’t Have a burr grinder, then you are not grinding. You need burrs to grind.
The actual discussion is conical vs flat burrs. Cast iron burrs are perfectly acceptable, more so if titanium coated.

[JimC]

Aww, I was expecting a list of ''10 audiophile myths busted'' I'm gonna hunt you down and hang you from the nearest tree !!

I totally agree with what you have said though and I'm sorry, I cannot explain it either.
This is the one and only Audio Forum I frequent because it is the most friendly and 'ego' free of them all as far as I am concerned.
All the rest are full of people exactly as you describe.

Is it because of money being spent? To be told that the Cartridge you've spent all your hard-earned Nelson's on isn't the best ever must make some people furious. Your analogy with wine is interesting. I do not appreciate wines I'm afraid but when you start to spend serious money on it does the same thing happen? To be told that the £100 (? is this expensive?) bottle of plonk you've just bought is considered vinegar by others, would this make you rant and rave and threaten the person who said it was awful ?

It is a strange world we live in indeed.

Jim

[magiccarpetride]

Aww, I was expecting a list of ''10 audiophile myths busted'' I'm gonna hunt you down and hang you from the nearest tree !!

I totally agree with what you have said though and I'm sorry, I cannot explain it either.
This is the one and only Audio Forum I frequent because it is the most friendly and 'ego' free of them all as far as I am concerned.
All the rest are full of people exactly as you describe.

Is it because of money being spent? To be told that the Cartridge you've spent all your hard-earned Nelson's on isn't the best ever must make some people furious. Your analogy with wine is interesting. I do not appreciate wines I'm afraid but when you start to spend serious money on it does the same thing happen? To be told that the £100 (? is this expensive?) bottle of plonk you've just bought is considered vinegar by others, would this make you rant and rave and threaten the person who said it was awful ?

It is a strange world we live in indeed.

Jim

Yeah, I don't think it's about money. Look at cars -- some models sell in hundreds of thousands of dollars, and yet no one is up in the arms if a guy says he prefers Lamborghinis to Ferraris. Good for you, douchebag, and I envy you with all my might. But I'm not gonna risk looking like a complete religious fanatic by trying to educate you on all the lies car manufacturers are hoisting upon you.

Yes, cars can also be reduced down to laws of physics, yet we all seem fine with someone's choice of their favourite automobile. We're not trying to protect them from manipulative car salesmen. Only in audio do we feel the urge to save some poor souls from the evil manipulative manufacturers.

[mikmas]

Yes, cars can also be reduced down to laws of physics, yet we all seem fine with someone's choice of their favourite automobile. We're not trying to protect them from manipulative car salesmen. Only in audio do we feel the urge to save some poor souls from the evil manipulative manufacturers.

Nah - having spent some time in the early days of 't interweb on car forums I can safely assure you that your 'argument' is a bit of a crock.

As with everything - opinions are like arseholes....

[magiccarpetride]

Nah - having spent some time in the early days of 't interweb on car forums I can safely assure you that your 'argument' is a bit of a crock.

As with everything - opinions are like arseholes....

Yes, you have one, but you haven't given us any examples.

[Pigmy Pony]

I'm told by someone who ought to know, that in Australia you are a Ford man or a Holden Man.

Not sure if opinions are as polarised in this country, and I don't care-my next motor will probably run off batteries, be driveable on the pavements and have a top speed of 6mph.

[Pigmy Pony]

I dunno, maybe it's a question of money. A coffee may be 2 or 3 quid, audio components hundreds, maybe thousands of pounds. My brother favours Starbucks, I prefer Café Nero, my oldest friend thinks they're all a ripoff and would rather buy a 90p brew from a butty shop. But the conversation didn't go beyond that statement.

There is generally much time, money and thought invested in purchasing hifi, so more at stake.

I find that when speaking to audio enthusiasts they are generally reasonable and receptive to other people's views, so maybe it depends how a statement is made. If you were to say 'cartridge x is the best cartridge I've ever heard', the response would probably be 'yes they are good, but I prefer cartridge y'. If however you said 'this is the best cartridge, full stop', you're asking for trouble.

If I come across someone overbearing and arrogant, I tend not to 'get into it' with them, as I'm no good with confrontations. I just take them off my Christmas card list and move on.

Apologies if I'm missing the point here.

[magiccarpetride]

I dunno, maybe it's a question of money. A coffee may be 2 or 3 quid, audio components hundreds, maybe thousands of pounds. My brother favours Starbucks, I prefer Café Nero, my oldest friend thinks they're all a ripoff and would rather buy a 90p brew from a butty shop. But the conversation didn't go beyond that statement.

There is generally much time, money and thought invested in purchasing hifi, so more at stake.

I find that when speaking to audio enthusiasts they are generally reasonable and receptive to other people's views, so maybe it depends how a statement is made. If you were to say 'cartridge x is the best cartridge I've ever heard', the response would probably be 'yes they are good, but I prefer cartridge y'. If however you said 'this is the best cartridge, full stop', you're asking for trouble.

If I come across someone overbearing and arrogant, I tend not to 'get into it' with them, as I'm no good with confrontations. I just take them off my Christmas card list and move on.

Apologies if I'm missing the point here.

How about cars? They tend to be more expensive than your average hi fi gear, yet pundits are not throwing mathematical theorems at each other trying to prove how this model is superior to that model.

[Pigmy Pony]

How about cars? They tend to be more expensive than your average hi fi gear, yet pundits are not throwing mathematical theorems at each other trying to prove how this model is superior to that model.

I bet if you went to a Ferrari owners club meeting, they'd be slagging Lamborghini owners no end...

[hornucopia]

Nah. BOTH coffee taste AND hi-fi sound depend on how many joints you've smoked beforehand.
And the next time is NEVER the same....)-: