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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    I find a microwave oven brilliant for cooking rice. It comes out as evenly fluffed as you could ask for.
    A bag of spinach cooks brilliantly in a microwave. Just make sure that you get the pre-washed type. Also, sweet potates in the bag. They steam cook in minutes and taste great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RothwellAudio View Post
    Yes, dangerous microwaves could leak out of the machine, but how would they make the food unsafe to eat?
    By rendering the user unable to chew properly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RothwellAudio View Post
    Yes, dangerous microwaves could leak out of the machine, but how would they make the food unsafe to eat?
    I don't know, but I'm simply unwilling to take the risk. Replacing a microwave oven after 10 years of use simply seems like a sensible precaution to take.

    It always amazes me how folks will not think twice in spending inordinate sums of money on hi-fi systems and TVs, but balk at spending, say, £50 on a microwave... Talk about mangled priorities!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    "Fine" is of course open to debate... I personally wouldn't keep the same microwave oven after 10 years of use, especially when basic ones now [which is all I'd imagine you'd need] can be bought brand new for buttons.

    As matter of interest, how often do you clean yours? I can imagine after 25 years of use, without proper maintenance, some nice 'wee crusty bits' will have built up inside...

    Marco.
    I only use it to make popcorn, and that's quite rare nowadays since they moved where it was in the supermarket and now I can't find it.

    Why would I buy a new one when the old one still works fine? That's the sort of thing a woman would do. My kettle is 18 this year and the toaster is even older than that.

    Plus my microwave is a proper catering job, made of metal, not plastic and made in Japan, not China. You can keep your flimsy modern crap. No wonder they go dodgy after a few years.

    No surprise everyone is skint these days if they're replacing perfectly good appliances all the time.
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    Lol - I'd hardly call replacing a microwave after 10 years (or in your case 25 years) of use, "replacing good appliances all the time"! You'd have a point if it were every couple of years.

    It's not only women who like to take pride in their homes, and be 110% safe, when it comes to domestic appliances

    We just have very different priorities, in that respect, as I couldn't look at some manky old kettle, toaster or microwave sitting in my kitchen, far less use it. If I were that hard up, I'd sell my hi-fi system or TV to pay for it [btw, I'm not saying that situation applies to you]

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    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RothwellAudio View Post
    Yes, I can accept that a leaky microwave oven could render the owner incapable of eating, but Marco's question said ".... Is it still safe, in terms of not exposing your food to harmful radiation?"
    The radiation is harmful is to humans, but that doesn't mean it renders the food harmful. How could it, since a microwave oven is designed to fire microwaves at the food?
    The answer is it can't. The microwave simply excites the water molecules in the food. Ths means the food cooks from within, thereby reducing the cooking time. Yes, some foods don't taste great when cooked in the microwave, but they are perfectly safe. However, leaking microwaves are extremely dangerous and to be avoided.

    I would go far as to say that leaking microwaves make my blood boil!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RothwellAudio View Post
    The radiation is harmful is to humans, but that doesn't mean it renders the food harmful. How could it, since a microwave oven is designed to fire microwaves at the food?
    That still doesn't mean, though, that it's *guaranteed* to be 100% safe, after a microwave oven has been regularly used for many years. Have there been any tests carried out in that respect to prove it?

    Call me fickle, but I always like to be as safe as I possibly can, especially when it comes to food hygiene, and if that means replacing ANY domestic appliance after a certain amount of usage, so be it.

    My 'fussiness', in that respect, may be one of the reasons why I've hardly [almost never] experienced any significant accidents, major illnesses or damage to my health in the 52 years I've been born

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    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    That still doesn't mean, though, that it's *guaranteed* to be 100% safe, after a microwave oven has been used for many years. Have there been any tests carried out in that respect to prove it?

    Call me fickle, but I always like to be as safe as I possibly can, especially when it comes to the food I eat, and if that means replacing ANY domestic appliance after a certain amount of usage, so be it.

    My 'fussiness', in that respect, may be one of the reasons why I've hardly [almost never] experienced any significant accidents, or damage to my health in the 52 years I've been born

    Marco.
    I have to say that when I recently went shopping for a second microwave, there were many designs that I thought could be "leaking" from new. Cheaply made with suspect seals, they did not inspire confidence.

    I suspect many microwave ovens are like colanders. I am sure I am not the only one to feel skin tingles when operating a shared microwave oven.

    Even with regular cleaning it is impossible to get at food that has penetrated the ventilation holes and must have accrued on the other side of the oven walls. I would therefore advocate replacing your microwave after 10 years on both safety and hygiene terms. At least get an older device checked out.

    Geoff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    I only use it to make popcorn, and that's quite rare nowadays since they moved where it was in the supermarket and now I can't find it.

    Why would I buy a new one when the old one still works fine? That's the sort of thing a woman ( Marco ) would do. My kettle is 18 this year and the toaster is even older than that.

    Plus my microwave is a proper catering job, made of metal, not plastic and made in Japan, not China. You can keep your flimsy modern crap. No wonder they go dodgy after a few years.

    No surprise everyone is skint these days if they're replacing perfectly good appliances all the time.
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