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Thread: Good analog and good digital converge?

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    To compare a digital written script with a digital sound file is over simplistic.

    The requirements in the former case are relatively limited, and only require the symbols to be in the right order. You can bet that if measured, the words and letters would not be in the exact same position on several compared reconstructed copies, but that is not relevant to the function.

    In the case of a sound file there are many more requirements because of the ears capability, despite its limitations.

    This thread is interestingly provoking thinking and argument, which is good, but rather than a pissing contest, it is a little like a pissing in the wind contest, but at least some of the piss ends up in the bucket/urinal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphaGT View Post
    You’re right, I should not have used the word bright, but hopefully some of you can attest to my experience that some stereos that are detailed, when you hear them you may notice new things in old recordings, but you find that you are analyzing all the music you play! Listening deeper, for more detail, taking mental notes. That is not the stereo I want to own.

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    Well, that just shows that not all of us are after the same thing.

    I think what you describe there is a stereo I would want to own!

    I want to hear what the musicians are doing. Great musicians do everything, every little thing, for a reason, be it a conscious decision or natural musicianship.
    An audio system that is intended to smooth that sort of detail over is not one that I would aspire to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    That wouldn't be a way of adding distortion to digital would it?
    One could argue that an RIAA slope increases distortion/noise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    One could argue that an RIAA slope increases distortion/noise.
    Speakers are probably adding more distortion than anything else in the music chain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Our hearing has evolved to listen in a distorted aural environment so that is probably why we like a bit of distortion added?

    If you stand in a wood on a windy day and listen to 2 birds in different positions you will still be able to judge where they are (behind, to the side or in front) even though you have lots of other noise around you distorting the sound. The brain compensates and you can make a very good assessment of the sound - millions of years of evolution to get to that point.

    Introduce digital (last 40 years?) err brain cannot compute. Alien sound which hearing/brain has not evolved yet to compensate for digital waveform. Yes you can hear a sound but it is not natural analogue so still doesn't sound right.

    THE CLOSER DIGITAL GETS TO ANALOGUE THE BETTER IT WILL SOUND. Simple
    I'm not sure where to start on that one!
    You're just making stuff up so as to get to your pre-determined conclusion.

    My brain computes digitally sourced music very well thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jandl100 View Post
    I'm not sure where to start on that one!
    You're just making stuff up so as to get to your pre-determined conclusion.

    My brain computes digitally sourced music very well thank you.
    Then that's all that matters Jerry.

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    But if you analyse the final digested waveform, its pure analogue!
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    No it is a digitised version of the analogue waveform. Yes what comes out of our speakers is analogue but it is reconstructed analogue via a DAC.
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    Does anyone actually know why Vinyl sounds better than Digital?

    <Brains exploding lol

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    https://electronics.howstuffworks.com/question487.htm

    This makes the most sense to me as it's in simple terms I understand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    Does anyone actually know why Vinyl sounds better than Digital?
    Does it? My records and CD's are on a par for sound quality. i.e., very good.

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