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    Default Headphone amps, are they bollocks?

    Well?
    It may be that my nearly 60 years old ears are passed their best but I have been listening to my headphones via numerous amplification devices lately and it has to be said that of the stand alone headphone amps I have listened to sound no better than on board headphone outputs. Starting to think there is a little snake oil in it all to be honest.
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    The mists in my crystal ball are not clearing to show which devices you have been listening to.
    Pray do tell ....
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    and what cans? ive 2 head amps and both are excellent to my ears
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    The mists in my crystal ball are not clearing to show which devices you have been listening to.
    Pray do tell ....
    I listened to a Schiit valve headphone amp, a Slee Novo, a little bear valve hpa, my Audiolap 8000C pre amp a vintage Pioneer and Trio integrated amps and a NAD 3020.
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    I've heard the headphone output from a NAD3020 and it was shite.
    My NAD C320BEE is a lot better than its elder stable mate, and both are shown a clean set of heels by my GSP Solo SRGII with PSU1.

    Which leads me to conclude that yer ears are fooked
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    You're going deaf, or using very easily driven phones.
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    I use Sennheiser HD600 with stock cable. I agree about the 3020. My Audiolab pre amp is pretty good though as was the aged Trio amp borrowed from a pal. According to my most recent hearing test last December they are in pretty good shape. I also use Grado SR225 headphones which are a tad more open and exciting. I remain sceptical about stand alone headphone devices.
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    Grado are an easy drive and the fr is awful. Try something neutral. Youll hear the difference
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    I've not heard the HD-600s.
    Are they anything like the HD-650s?
    If so, that could well be why you can't hear any real differences between amplifiers.

    I have heard HD-560s, and they're far more accurate than the HD-650s.
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    I use HD600's and I think I may have come to the same conclusion.
    I have used the following with them-
    Heed Canamp
    Rega Ear
    Lehmann Linear
    Dragonfly Red
    Caiman SEG

    The Dragonfly and the SEG have sounded the best and are probably the weakest as far as HP amps go. I have come to the conclusion that the HP amp only offers a volume control to the 600's and doesn't seem to add much else.
    Allo Digione Player / Caiman SEG with Longdog Audio LPSU / Sennheiser HD600

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