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    as above i bought this as 'new old stock' the seller confirmed 0 hrs on it.
    i noticed straight away the cantilever was slightly off but thought it would bed in.
    it hasn't after 2 days of long listening,dont get me wrong it sounds great and i always align the cantilever anyway,perhaps the body is out?

    what do you think guys?
    send it back for a full refund?
    live with it?
    send it off to be sorted?







    i know its not badly leaning to the right but it makes me wonder if it has 0 hrs on it?

    about 5 hrs use from me?

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    Maybe it comes right when anti skating is applied? Otherwise not sure what to say, doesn't look too wonky but many would be concerned. You aren't being anal in my book...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie123 View Post
    as above i bought this as 'new old stock' the seller confirmed 0 hrs on it.
    i noticed straight away the cantilever was slighty off but thought it would bed in.
    it hasn't after 2 days of long listening,dont get me wrong it sounds great and i always align the cantilever anyway,perhaps the body is out?

    what do you think guys?
    send it back for a full refund?
    live with it?
    send it off to be sorted?







    i know its not badly leaning to the right but it makes me wonder if it has 0 hrs on it?
    if you do send it back Jamie, make sure you clean off all that crap hanging on the stylus, the seller might think you bent the cantilever. Not always a good idea posting on forums then wanting to return stuff as Adrian found out with his amplifier troubles.
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    Oh and no I don't think you are being anal, I wouldn't expect to buy something unused to look like that
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    Michael Fremer wrote an article about this once, giving off about many new carts and pretty high end ones often having a cantilever that is not square on to the body. If this one sounds fine its probably ok. Always align by cantilever and not the body anyway.
    Regards Neil

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalek Supreme D L View Post
    Michael Fremer wrote an article about this once, giving off about many new carts and pretty high end ones often having a cantilever that is not square on to the body. If this one sounds fine its probably ok. Always align by cantilever and not the body anyway.
    i always do mate,it sounds fine,also the rarity of it makes me reluctant to send it back. its just an annoying niggle that will be in the back of my mind.
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    pretty minor. doubt it will affect it.
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    +1 I wouldn't worry about it - unlike your orthography Jamie!
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    Barry

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    lol i had to look that up and i still dont understand it barry??
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie123 View Post
    as above i bought this as 'new old stock' the seller confirmed 0 hrs on it.
    i noticed straight away the cantilever was slightly off but thought it would bed in.
    it hasn't after 2 days of long listening,dont get me wrong it sounds great and i always align the cantilever anyway,perhaps the body is out?

    what do you think guys?
    send it back for a full refund?
    live with it?
    send it off to be sorted?







    i know its not badly leaning to the right but it makes me wonder if it has 0 hrs on it?

    about 5 hrs use from me?

    [IMG]Fri Mar 30 17-05-29 by , on Flickr[/IMG]

    [IMG]Fri Mar 30 17-00-41 by , on Flickr[/IMG]
    I donít think you are being anal at all, but perhaps slightly concerned.

    Tried to take a picture of my 103 Pro (see below) and not quite the offset you are showing. Perhaps a few more hours for the suspension to free up is in order.

    If not then back to the seller.



    Peter


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