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    Never heard any and as half speed mastered vinyl is thin in the ground was wondering if sacd is worth buying. Also what is hybrid sacd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    That seems clear enough
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    as long as they are hybrid they will work on both cd and sacd machines. not noticed much difference between layers but often the mastering of both is better
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    As for SACDs sounding better than CD - it's all in the mastering.
    A better master is a better master. Format has little to do with it.
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    Like half speed mastered vinyl sounds better provided the master is good to start with. Some recordings are crap to begin with. The reason I asked is that some classical vinyl I'm looking for may not be in mint condition even though sellers have this strange grading system where something that sounds like rice crispies is said to be excellent. Any noise is of no use to me, hence looking for cd despite its decline.

    Looking at vinyl today and it's graded as mint (-) it's either mint or it's not end of
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    Do you have a RCM?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    As for SACDs sounding better than CD - it's all in the mastering.
    A better master is a better master. Format has little to do with it.
    That does unfortunately cause issues re comparisons, but the same is true of comparing CDs and vinyl a bad or compressed master will make it more difficult to know if its the recording sounding better or the equipment/format.

    After years of fiddling around with SACD I feel it does sound better, as did DVD A, than Red Book CD, but ultimately I feel vinyl does more, even though it like most things is flawed. SACD is flawed re the higher noise rates which must have some effect regardless of how high up the frequencies are or how they are shaped.

    Super Tweeters even though their operation scope is far up the frequency range have an effect when added or taken away, its audible so SACD noise must be audible, in some way even if it shouldn't be. Question is, is it the noise that makes it sound better to some.

    Regardless of the technology, its short comings I like SACD discs. Not tried DSD files yet, as such, as I don't really own/have any. I do have the equipment to play them and decode them. Something for the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    Do you have a RCM?
    Yes, DIY with VPI 16.5 suction piece. I bought a supposedly good copy of supertramp that looked ok but was obviously worn and had surface noise that couldn't be cleaned away. Some sellers don't bother to listen before they grade them.
    I saw something yesterday that I wanted, seller said mint but has some surface noise, not mint then.
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    Some carts are more prone to surface noise. The original supertramPs were noisy anyway
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