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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    I wonder why then that any high-end home-cinema set up you see always contains a top-notch (and usually a very large) centre speaker

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    I find some mixes tend to emphasise it too much, so you are actually listening just to the centre speaker. Added to which even a rubbish centre speaker is stupidly expensive for what it is. Okay, Marco gets round that by using the same speaker as he does for his fronts, but then you have the issue with the lateral dispersion not being right.
    I agree, as I've already said, and I've got some films which sound exactly like you describe, so I adjust the levels (in terms of distance and output) of the centre and fronts accordingly to compensate.

    It doesn't solve the problem, but it helps. However, conversely, when the mix is spot on, the effect (in terms of recreating a convincing sounding film soundtrack) is MUCH better in my system, than when only a pair of stereo speakers is used.

    Not that it really matters, the only question is can you actually hear any difference? And the answer is usually 'no'.
    Well, I can certainly hear a difference, that's for sure!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
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    Doubtless that applies to an extent Geoff (for some folk), such is the nature of the beast, but for me, there's more to it than that. All I can say is that, using my own home-cinema system as an example, the positives of having introduced a large and high-quality centre speaker into the equation, have been considerable.

    The single 15XR, employed for those duties cost £30, excluding the cap and binding posts upgrade. A total bargain!

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    Ok your sitting in the front row at the cinema.

    Massive screen, if you didnít have a centre channel vocals would appear not to come from the actors on screen but somewhere to the left or right.

    In the home this isnít problem as the distance you watch from is usually further than the distance the left and right speakers are apart.

    I donít use a centre as I donít like vocals positioned below the screen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tubehunter View Post
    Ok your sitting in the front row at the cinema.

    Massive screen, if you didn’t have a centre channel vocals would appear not to come from the actors on screen but somewhere to the left or right.

    In the home this isn’t problem as the distance you watch from is usually further than the distance the left and right speakers are apart.

    I don’t use a centre as I don’t like vocals positioned below the screen.
    Good point, Dunc, and fair enough. However, I do

    When you come round next time, I'll demonstrate the home-cinema set up to you, and you can see what you think

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    ISTR that the original brief for stereo reproduction used three speakers, the extra being a center speaker.
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