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    I've signed up for a free trial and got this e-mail where they claim to supply HD music. I know they claim "high quality" which could mean anything, but surely HD has a certain meaning which they can't use?


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    think what they mean is your recommendations become more accurate. its still 320kbs, but very good imo. not at tidal level but close
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawrence001 View Post
    I've signed up for a free trial and got this e-mail where they claim to supply HD music. I know they claim "high quality" which could mean anything, but surely HD has a certain meaning which they can't use?


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    From my understanding they use either AAC 128kbit/s, and 256kbit/s for Premium on their webplayer or Ogg Vorbis 160kbit/s on Desktop app. All of which are Lossy however you look at it, so IMHO they definitely are not HD sound, they would need to be streaming at least at CD level quality for that.
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    It gets me that even if you pay the monthly fee you still don't get 16/44.1 - you've got to assume the vast bulk of the subscribers don't care as long as it sounds 'crisp'.
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    At Xmas my brother told me he had tried comparing an AC/DC album on Amazon Music to the same on CD - he described the Amazon version as sounding 'like they are playing underwater,'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    It gets me that even if you pay the monthly fee you still don't get 16/44.1 - you've got to assume the vast bulk of the subscribers don't care as long as it sounds 'crisp'.
    its a good algorithm and 80% will be listening on cheap earbuds from phone at lower level. its what they are used to and many wont really hear difference on equipment they are using; or care
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    its a good algorithm and 80% will be listening on cheap earbuds from phone at lower level. its what they are used to and many wont really hear difference on equipment they are using; or care
    yeah 320 is not too bad and I suppose it will be tough to tell the difference on most rock/pop. But if I was paying monthly I'd want full fat. And Amazon is only 128kbps, worse than cassette tape!
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    i used to be a spotty tester. you had to try all the new stuff and see if you could try and find errors etc. they can put out higher rates on chrome, where they use a higher bandwidth, and no volume levelling but it wan not deemed viable to do it across the board
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    yeah 320 is not too bad and I suppose it will be tough to tell the difference on most rock/pop. But if I was paying monthly I'd want full fat. And Amazon is only 128kbps, worse than cassette tape!
    they do 256 too(variable); you have to select it tho. still not a patch on spotty tho.
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    FIIO K7 BT, M11 PLUS, BTR7, KA5 - OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - PANASONIC 4K ULTRA HD TV - PIXEL 6 - AVANTREE LR BLUETOOTH - 2* X600 SOUNDCORE - HEADPHONES INCLUDE, FIIO, NURAPHONES', FOCAL, OPPO, BOSE, CAMBRIDGE, BOWER & WILKINS, DEVIALET, MARSHALL, SONY, MITCHELL & JOHNSTON - 2*ZBOOK'S- MERCURY BD ROM, ROON, QOBUZ, TIDAL, PLEX, CYBERLINK, JRIVER - MULTI HDD'S -

    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

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    Just seems to me like the Concord story. We go to supersonic passenger flight, we have it for 30 years, then everyone goes back to subsonic. From CD down to Spotify. A step backwards.
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