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    sazeracrye

    Really have no idea what your posts are about?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by STD305M View Post
    sazeracrye

    Really have no idea what your posts are about?????
    Nor have I. Some clarification of this code? Would be good.

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    It might as well be Swahili Steve as I have absolutely no idea what all this means...
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    Time to get the Banhammer out I reckon, another ‘comedian’...terrific.

    Anyway back in topic.
    Theres a lot of generalisation and stereotypes about valve amps circling about, unfortunately they can get quite pricey to get them to do what they REALLY do better than solid state.
    Solid state amps do great things too of course, my own valve amp is a hybrid 300B SET (all 8 watts of her) and you kniw what, it pays to be open minded about this stuff and not sit firmly in a “my way is the only way” camp.
    I think a lot of the negative stuff on valve amplification is based on reading online of peoples experience of compromised kit.
    Read enough of that and a pattern builds up.

    For a given budget it can sometimes be better to go with a great solid state amp that gets toward what a proper vslve amp can do.
    If determined to go valves I’d recommend something from WAD?
    An old post here on AOS but lets you see what the amps are like.
    http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?30024-2-WAD-Valve-Amp

    At your budget I wouldnt get anything valve amp wise than this except maybe something from Croft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazjam View Post
    Time to get the Banhammer out I reckon, another ‘comedian’...terrific.

    Anyway back in topic.
    Theres a lot of generalisation and stereotypes about valve amps circling about, unfortunately they can get quite pricey to really get them to do what they REALLY do better from solid state.

    For a given budget it can sometimes be better to go with a great solid stste amp that gets toward what a proper vslve amp can do.
    If determined tomgo valves I’d recommend something from WAD?
    An old post here on AOS but lets you see what the amps are like.

    At your budget I wouldnt get anything valve amp wise than this except somethijg from Croft.
    Yes I think the "Banhammer" should come out Gazjam..

    As far as the budget of £1k - £1.2k goes I can certainly recommend a good used Audio Note Oto which I owned for about 15 years and as long as 'suitable' speakers are used it can produce some lovely sounds... I owned a couple of Crofts, the Vitale pre and an integrated, the pre was very good but I didn't get on with the integrated and the Oto, to me, sounded far superior... just as long as the speakers are an easy load for any SET amp to perform at their best
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    Forgot about Audio Note, a good recommendation if you can find one within budget.

    As you suggest Bev,
    The choice of speaker is perhaps more important with valve amps that it might be with solid state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazjam View Post
    Forgot about Audio Note, a good recommendation if you can find one within budget.

    As you suggest Bev,
    The choice of speaker is perhaps more important with valve amps that it might be with solid state.
    I sold my immaculate and perfect AN Oto well within the budget but they don't come up that often so Steve might have to wait a while

    Absolutely, the choice of speaker is more important with valve amps, especially low powered SET's, than with ss
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninanina View Post
    Yes I think the "Banhammer" should come out Gazjam..

    As far as the budget of £1k - £1.2k goes I can certainly recommend a good used Audio Note Oto which I owned for about 15 years and as long as 'suitable' speakers are used it can produce some lovely sounds... I owned a couple of Crofts, the Vitale pre and an integrated, the pre was very good but I didn't get on with the integrated and the Oto, to me, sounded far superior... just as long as the speakers are an easy load for any SET amp to perform at their best
    Strong emphasis on the SET friendly caveat here ... on one of my forays with AN-E's I borrowed an Oto SE Phono Signature, supposedly top of the Oto line .. even with the E's I wasn't mightily impressed, but with non-SET friendly speakers (such as the 15in Tannoys I had at the time - OK I tried it for a laugh, I mean you have to), 10w of parallel triode strapped EL84s didn't feel like it was powerful enough to pull the skin off a rice pudding. (And in general I'm an EL 84 fan). I would most definitely check that it was sufficient for the needs of whoever was buying it. It's the same power section as is in the P1 incidentally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by montesquieu View Post
    Strong emphasis on the SET friendly caveat here ... on one of my forays with AN-E's I borrowed an Oto SE Phono Signature, supposedly top of the Oto line .. even with the E's I wasn't mightily impressed, but with non-SET friendly speakers (such as the 15in Tannoys I had at the time - OK I tried it for a laugh, I mean you have to), 10w of parallel triode strapped EL84s didn't feel like it was powerful enough to pull the skin off a rice pudding. (And in general I'm an EL 84 fan). I would most definitely check that it was sufficient for the needs of whoever was buying it. It's the same power section as is in the P1 incidentally.
    Well I guess we are all different Tom as I found the stock Oto very good indeed which is why I owned it for so many years and to be honest I was quite reluctant to sell it

    I used the Oto into Klipsch Heresys, Rega RS3's and the Living Voice Auditoriums and the LV's sounded the best with the Oto
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