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    I use a 1TB drive and find powering it individually via a Y usb lead brings a big lift in resolution. Possibly the drive was pumping noise along the power lines or the puny power traces on the Pi pcb were an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clive View Post
    I use a 1TB drive and find powering it individually via a Y usb lead brings a big lift in resolution. Possibly the drive was pumping noise along the power lines or the puny power traces on the Pi pcb were an issue.
    Interesting, Clive... Perhaps that's why I found powering my twin Seagate 3TB NAS drives with a dedicated linear PSU [built by Duncan] made a massive difference to the sound I get from my RPi, see here:

    http://theartofsound.net/forum/showt...PSU+hard+drive

    You should try it, if you think that what you did made a difference, as it essentially takes the concept a few stages further!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Interesting, Clive... Perhaps that's why I found powering my twin Seagate 3TB NAS drives with a dedicated linear PSU [built by Duncan] made a massive difference to the sound I get from my RPi, see here:

    http://theartofsound.net/forum/showt...PSU+hard+drive

    You should try it, if you think that what you did made a difference, as it essentially takes the concept a few stages further!

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    Hi Marco, some day I'll compare NAS to my self-powered USB approach. Ethernet connection may well be better though I suspect I've cured most of the USB ills with the self powered drive.

    BTW I had to prevent the HDD from feeding power the Pi, I used a solid connector with the +5V contact removed. It may be though that I end up moving to the Allo Sparky from the Pi as these seem to give better results but are more hassle to setup.
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    the pi hub can block the return too, used to use one
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    Quote Originally Posted by garrard View Post
    I use a small 1TB hard drive with my Pi2B. I find the cost of an SSD still hard to justify when the normal hard drive works well, holds heaps of music, is powered from the Pi and never causes dropouts - and is so cheap.
    I found that powering my USB hard drive from a USB hub, rather than the Pi, gave a significant improvement in SQ.

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    Powering your SSD/HD separately with a good PSU, or any other attached USB device for that matter and disconnecting the 5v at pin 1 on the USB data lead is a very good idea.

    For those not good with DIY and soldering of such small items, SBOOSTER (makers of the PSU's) do a USB pass through adapter that has pin 1 disconnected. Their example use is with a DAC, but it will work the same. They charge 21.50 Euros for it though, which is a bit of a cheek. Here: https://www.sbooster.com/sbooster-tweaks/
    I don't know if it has any other components inside, I suspect not.

    Must get round to building a rpi, had one on the drg board for a while - Single box/RPi/Linear PSU/1TB SSD, just not had the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eldarvanyar View Post
    Hi,
    Can you say a bit more about your set up?
    Which SSD you are using?
    How many albums will it hold?
    File types - FLAC, WAV, IFF etc
    Do you experience any drop outs on playback?
    Also does the SSD need it’s own psu as I think the pi is unable to power it from its usb. I have a pi2B
    What DAC are you using?
    I have built a Vortexbox which uses LMS but I think the pi with SSD negates a lot of the issues with a network.
    Sorry for so many questions
    Thanks
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    Hi Lee,

    Its quite simple. I have a 500GB Samsung Evo 850 SSD. Its big enough to hold over 9000 tracks as WAV and roughly double that as FLAC. It is powered directly from the RPI3 which is battery powered. I tried powering the SSD from a separate battery but to my ears it sounded worse. There are no drop-outs on playback which I did have occasionally when streaming over the WiFi. I am using the Caiman SEG (12V battery powered). I hope that helps!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alp View Post
    Hi Lee,

    Its quite simple. I have a 500GB Samsung Evo 850 SSD. Its big enough to hold over 9000 tracks as WAV and roughly double that as FLAC. It is powered directly from the RPI3 which is battery powered. I tried powering the SSD from a separate battery but to my ears it sounded worse. There are no drop-outs on playback which I did have occasionally when streaming over the WiFi. I am using the Caiman SEG (12V battery powered). I hope that helps!
    Thanks for taking the time to reply I shall order the Samsung SSD

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