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    And yes, it's difficult to get proper scale with small drivers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    I can see they're small drivers
    I was actually responding to Oliver's post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    You're not kidding, Geoff.

    Bass is there, obviously in a lesser amount to the CS-77A, but there. HF is there but it feels like there's a gaping hole in the Mids.

    Imaging is good. Detail is good but everything sounds very thin.

    I've got some Monitor Audio GS10 to try too. I don't think it'll be long before they are in.

    The thing I'm missing ingredients instantly is the size of the picture the Pioneer create. It all seem a lot smaller.
    Because there's no real bass. You don't notice it until it is gone. Same with a well-tuned subwoofer. You don't hear it doing anything. But when you take it out it's 'Oh no! What's happened there?'
    Current Lash Up:

    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    Which drive units in the FH3s?
    Gawd knows. I didn't ask. I can find out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Because there's no real bass. You don't notice it until it is gone. Same with a well-tuned subwoofer. You don't hear it doing anything. But when you take it out it's 'Oh no! What's happened there?'
    You're right suspect.

    Got these in and the floor is shaking. Not even how it's possible

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    Wot is dey man?

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    Meh! Suspect the Pioneers will be back in shortly. Big drivers in big cabs, there really is no substitute. They knew that back in '71.
    Current Lash Up:

    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Wot is dey man?
    They be Monitor Audio GS10.

    Rather excellent little speaker. Sound WAY bigger than they have any right to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Meh! Suspect the Pioneers will be back in shortly. Big drivers in big cabs, there really is no substitute. They knew that back in '71.
    You're right Macca. I've been spoilt by the Pioneers. Nothing has compared to them in my system.

    Undisputed champs here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    You're right Macca. I've been spoilt by the Pioneers. Nothing has compared to them in my system.

    Undisputed champs here.
    You might like these JM Labs I've got here at the moment. Would work well in your room I think. One of the few moderns speakers I've heard that doesn't let itself down big time in some way or another.
    Current Lash Up:

    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.

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