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Thread: Frugel horn. Would somebody care to explain the design?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    You might like these JM Labs I've got here at the moment. Would work well in your room I think. One of the few moderns speakers I've heard that doesn't let itself down big time in some way or another.
    What model are they or is that the model lol, I'm not sure why I've started auditioning speakers

    Suppose it's just good to see what other people are listening to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    , I'm not sure why I've started auditioning speakers

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    These things just happen don't they?

    They are JM Labs Electra 926
    Current Lash Up:

    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    These things just happen don't they?

    They are JM Labs Electra 926
    I'll Google them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    I was actually responding to Oliver's post.
    Forum posting overlap.
    I'm sure that it adds fuel to the flames .....
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    A glance at Oliver's listen space tells you that it's not a great space to listen to FH3s.
    The doorway creates lots of issues for the rearward horn output, and the lack of solid wall behind just adds to the problems.
    I'm not surprised that he's not particularly taken with them on first impression. I'd still like to know what the drive units are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    A glance at Oliver's listen space tells you that it's not a great space to listen to FH3s.
    The doorway creates lots of issues for the rearward horn output, and the lack of solid wall behind just adds to the problems.
    I'm not surprised that he's not particularly taken with them on first impression. I'd still like to know what the drive units are.
    You're right. Rear ported speakers are a general no no here. The sealed cab Pioneers are back in and sounding glorious. Think I'll spend my spare change on some nice stands for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    You're right. Rear ported speakers are a general no no here. The sealed cab Pioneers are back in and sounding glorious. Think I'll spend my spare change on some nice stands for them.
    Good call
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    Quote Originally Posted by montesquieu View Post
    I had a very similar pair of horns to Frugelhorns (rear vented, intended for corner reinvorcement,) based on Fostex 6in drivers.

    There were ok but compromised (uneven, honky, no bass was the worst of it). First step was some tweeters/supertweeters coming in at 8khz or so as that's where the 'full range' (hah!) drivers started to tail off.

    Then a pair of subs to do the below 60hz business as there was no bass really worth calling bass.

    So what you end up is bolting together a bag of bits that aren't actually a proper speaker design, in order to address the basic deficiencies.

    Fun to play with but a dead end. Conclusion: it's better just to go and get some proper speakers, designed by a proper designer, and be done with it.
    the frugalhorn xl here for several months had very good bass , enough to feel satisfied after playing organ music . the top end was extremely revealing . they were just slightly toppy on a few tracks but overall they were very good indeed . i would have them back in a flash if i could
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    these had the alpair 10p , i might try the pensil sometime possibly

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