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    Quote Originally Posted by bobvfr View Post
    Harass away Oliver, you will hear nothing but praise for them from me, but then I think Geoff is also an advocate for them as well.
    Lol, he's not budging.

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    I bought electric beach frugels a couple of years ago.

    They reside in my son system amplified by croft pre/power.

    They sound fantastic in a near field set up-he runs super tweaters on the rear firing vertically which make a sizeable difference to the bass....go figure!

    Ive not found them overly fussy placement wise.

    Colin Wonfor brought a selection of his EWA amps and cables to Ali Tates place last year-i brought my frugels....boy oh boy they werent lacking in anything sonically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wee tee cee View Post
    I bought electric beach frugels a couple of years ago.

    They reside in my son system amplified by croft pre/power.

    They sound fantastic in a near field set up-he runs super tweaters on the rear firing vertically which make a sizeable difference to the bass....go figure!

    Ive not found them overly fussy placement wise.

    Colin Wonfor brought a selection of his EWA amps and cables to Ali Tates place last year-i brought my frugels....boy oh boy they werent lacking in anything sonically.
    Which drivers did you opt for, Tony?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigman80 View Post
    I've been offered a loan of a pair of these. I hadn't picked up that they should be used in a corner either, probably due to ignorance lol.

    Does the siting have a massive effect on these in your theoretical opinion, Geoff?
    i used these in several positions in house and didn`t make huge difference , sounded superb wherever they were. in fact i am suffering withdrawel symptoms
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    But you've still got the awful colourations from the horn, you've still got no bass, and now you've got a load of x-over components in there too. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
    had superb bass from the xl version with alpair drivers , no need for any supertweeters either

    some pics

    P1050211 by , on Flickr

    P1050246 by , on Flickr
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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    You can get deep enough bass from small drivers. The output will be limited, but the depth can be surprising. Anybody remember the 'Daline' design using a five inch KEF B110?

    It was capable of output down to 30Hz.
    Well, there's a turn-up! I have never seen anybody mention the Daline design on this forum before. I had assumed it was totally unloved. It is in fact the loudspeaker I am listening to right now. I got them last year - a bit battered and bruised, but I was thrilled to track down a pair because the idea of putting the drivers from an LS3/5A into a cabinet employing a totally different acoustic principle appealed to me. Mine are the twin driver unit (a B110 and a T27 in each cabinet) and I absolutely love the way they sound. As Geoff points out they have an astonishingly deep bass capability given that the mid/bass driver is only about 5.5ins or something. Very well-balanced and tuneful too. I have now assembled all the parts I need to convert them into the three-driver version that represents the designer's "ultimate" Daline. I have high hopes. As bought, they are a bit scruffy unfortunately, so I need to undertake some cosmetic rehabilitation. That's a new area for me, but should be interesting. I'll post some pictures if they come out anything like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinitely Baffled View Post
    Well, there's a turn-up! I have never seen anybody mention the Daline design on this forum before. I had assumed it was totally unloved.
    Not unloved, just forgotten 'cos it was such a bloody long time ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ali Tait View Post
    Some info here Geoff if you haven’t seen it already-

    http://www.frugal-horn.com/FH3.html
    Not seen that before Ali.

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    Chris,
    I went for the copper coloured Alpair drivers.

    Should be thread on her somewhere with photos-lovely looking speakers finished to a really high standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wee tee cee View Post
    Chris,
    I went for the copper coloured Alpair drivers.

    Should be thread on her somewhere with photos-lovely looking speakers finished to a really high standard.
    Could be the Alpair 7 - is the driver around 4" across?
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