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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharos View Post
    I have heard few streaming examples, but my opinion is based on observing others' reactions to their setups, many of which are on this forum.

    I think you are over extending my statements. I agree that music has always been a commodity, but the people I cited grasped that and markedly took over the market with their business venture, to me a marked increase in the process.
    Dennis,

    You need to hear things first hand. Even a £30 Chromecast Audio can produce a quality of sound that will pleasantly surprise. If you can borrow a Raspberry Pi with one of the better audio boards (spdif or dac) I predict you will be converted.

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    You seem to make so may assumptions Geoff.

    Subjectivism is fine provided that it is not embraced in such a way that it precludes accurate perception of what is stated.

    My friend brought his Mac down and we streamed Tidal and Spotify some time ago, but assessment was mudded by a recent change in speakers from my own to ADAM Gammas, and it was pretty good.

    I'm not against streaming at all and can see many advantages, but as the poster stated and copied in my quote of post 133, I am going to wait a while until it settles out a bit.

    I also have to reconsider purchase of a better TV to allow all my computer work to be done in the lounge and facilitate concerts and lectures, with the much better sound quality there on the system now with ADAM Betas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharos View Post
    You seem to make so may assumptions Geoff.

    Subjectivism is fine provided that it is not embraced in such a way that it precludes accurate perception of what is stated.

    My friend brought his Mac down and we streamed Tidal and Spotify some time ago, but assessment was mudded by a recent change in speakers from my own to ADAM Gammas, and it was pretty good.

    I'm not against streaming at all and can see many advantages, but as the poster stated and copied in my quote of post 133, I am going to wait a while until it settles out a bit.

    I also have to reconsider purchase of a better TV to allow all my computer work to be done in the lounge and facilitate concerts and lectures, with the much better sound quality there on the system now with ADAM Betas.
    Dennis,

    I am making assertions based upon my subjective experience as an owner and user of several streaming components, and my first hand experience in listening to several other systems.

    These assertions are based upon my assumption that you have not personally heard the potential of an RPi based system playing lossless files. If that assumption is wrong I stand corrected.

    I also understand that you may believe the technology is unstable and for that reason, and others (i.e. other demands on your budget), have chosen to delay a decision to invest in streaming. The reality is that technology is always in flux but that entry into the streaming market is relatively low cost with a CCA or RPi costing only £30 or c. £100 respectively.

    I do not understand your first sentence. "Perception" is about how we interpret reality through our sensory facilities and beliefs. Subjectivism is the theory that perception (or consciousness) is paramount and that there is no absolute reality, only that "formed" by perception in the individual consciousness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primalsea View Post
    I rip all of my CDs to the NAS drive, I don’t have a CD player anymore. The Raspberry Pi3 into my USB audio interface with balanced outputs is almost a perfect setup for me. I still have my 401 though, it just sounds so good.
    Can you say what usb audio interface with balanced outputs you are using?
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    Quote Originally Posted by montesquieu View Post
    Predominantly use Spotify as a means to find/identify new music to buy (sometimes on vinyl, other times on CD) and to avoid buying stuff I know I won't play.

    It's worked pretty well for me so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphaGT View Post
    I know these streaming companies claim 40 million songs, or whatever their claim is, but do they really have everything? Aren’t there some old rare records in your 40 plus year collection that are not found on streaming sites? I’ve got some rare albums I’d be shocked to see on a streaming site, but maybe they could surprise me?

    And sound quality is a strange thing. My CD player plays clearer, and cleaner, more detail, more dynamics! Anyone hearing the same 20 seconds of a song on both would say the CD player blows the vinyl away! But somehow the vinyl playback still wins in the magic department. It has a quality I find hard to explain, the rhythm draws me in, more of the, “foot tapping magic”, from vinyl, I have yet to hear any digital source to match it. And my vinyl playback system is nice but far from top drawer. Perhaps I just haven’t heard the right streaming setup yet?

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    Spotify for one don't have everything. Sometimes I will see something on eBay or elsewhere and want to hear it and cannot find it to hear on Spotify.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim View Post
    There is a flip side to the statement "not everything is available for streaming" in that there is a lot of OOP music available, or music that is so hard to come by it sells for hundreds of pounds on places like Amazon Marketplace, or eBay that you can access from streaming services. It's a double edged sword.



    My story is an interesting one (been into FBA since 2011 and sold my CDP then) in that I was looking to upgrade my CDP and stumbled upon how good file based audio can sound by chance. I'm lucky that I used to work in IT, so I'm comfortable around computers and can build my own - I've tried/heard all sorts, laptops, custom servers, bespoke units you buy off the shelf and stripped everything unnecessary out of a Windows O/S and edited the registry. But in all honesty you don't need to go that far, at the moment I'm using a laptop with a tweaked Windows O/S, JRiver and Spotify.

    As someone who considers themselves a music fan first, with a passing interest in being an audiophile, file based audio and streaming is the best thing to ever happen and as Jerry says, it has changed my musical life. Not just for convenience (I have over 4,000 CDs - all ripped to FLAC), but superior sound quality at a very reasonable price.

    Here's a thought, I went to the Bristol Hi-Fi show recently (and a high-end Bowers & Wilkins/CHORD demo last night). Hardly any demonstrations involved a CD player, it was dominated by file based audio and vinyl playback - I can count on one hand the number playing CDs, it was all Apple laptops/Mac Minis (some Windows PC's) Roon based systems, Auralic file servers/streamers or some other in house music server. Roon/TIDAL was the software of choice for pretty much all, if they weren't using something bespoke to the player. I saw many systems costing upwards of £50K running from a Macbook. Yesterday's demo had a £60K B&W/CHORD system fed from a £2,000 Innous music server. That to me speaks volumes about how highly regarded file based audio is now - you can get so much for your money, in both value and sound quality from file based audio.

    I still buy CDs, but don't have a CDP, they get ripped to FLAC immediately. The head of Polydor music claims that 90% of CDs sold these days don't even get played, they are ripped to some type of music file immediately. I have just bought a turntable, but that's just for fun - my serious music listening comes from a music server or the internet

    My equipment hasn't really changed that much in relation to sources, I sold my CDP but bought a DAC and have a music server and a turntable. So I've actually got more gear!
    I use an HP notebook Windows 10, Spotify into a Dac. What is the purpose of jriver? Is that for ripping cd's
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulf-2007 View Post
    I use an HP notebook Windows 10, Spotify into a Dac. What is the purpose of jriver? Is that for ripping cd's
    jriver is a full program for ripping, storing, filing and playing, plus it can be used as a server. great value too and very customizable, if thats a word. lol
    has a very decent ipad remote app too.
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