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  1. #131
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    I'm rather surprised by the responses posted to living in Spain.

    My intention had been, prior to the Brexit decision to move to Spain, perhaps a Catalan villa costing about 1/6th of the value of my current home, and to enjoy the improved weather, lower heating costs, cycling through the vegetable groves, with a guarantee of health exchange and indexed linked pension.

    But the posts here seem to indicate that this will not necessarily be what it seems.

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    think you need to learn the lingo to make much of it, unless living in a "little England" enclave. guess you just have to see how foreign folk are perceived here who dont have much of a grasp of the language.
    me being poor at languages i couldnt manage it. not sure i would be happy in a foreign country.
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    We've owned a house in France for ten years, my French, virtually non existent, has improved from being there every other weekend and weeks at a time, talking to the neighbours. But is getting worse by not going as often in the past couple of years. Being in a rural setting in a village of 300 occupants is nice and the people are friendly, especially the children who always say bonjour when passing. My nearest neighbour even bought a French English dictionary. Sometimes it doesn't help when French people reply in English when I'm trying to improve my French.
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    think you need to learn the lingo to make much of it, unless living in a "little England" enclave.
    Precisely! And it's called integrating; something any well-adjusted human being should capable of and would seek to do.

    Quite simply, when you move to live in ANY country, you should always respect its practices and culture (not impose your own on it), and attempt to 'fit in' as much as possible, not try and create insular little enclaves, in an attempt to 'group hug' your fellow expats - and learning the local language [trying to live like a local] is a big part of that.

    It rather reminds me of Brits flocking on holiday to some Godawful all-inclusive tourist resort in Spain, simply to experience 'Britain, but with sun'. It's both pathetic and ridiculous, and to have the same goals, when going to live there, would be even worse!

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    I couldn't agree more, especially having seen the despicable way that many English have behaved in Spain.

    English pubs, and fish and chip shops, boasting of a 'real English breakfast', and beer swilling drunks, and all whilst missing Spain's wonderful native food.

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    Ahem!

    Just to make sure that I don't get lumped in with the Fish & Chip / English pub brigade living in self-imposed ghettos on the Spanish coast ....

    We bought a house on the outskirts of a small Spanish village called Barxeta, about 50km south of Valencia and 45 minutes drive in from the coast.
    No other Brits there that we ever came across.
    Spanish lingo was needed to converse with neighbour, post office and local village authorities. I well knew the Spanish for our electricity has stopped working, and we aren't getting any water out of the taps. The local town hall was very friendly and helpful ... and patient with my poor language skills. I think they regarded us as an interesting novelty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharos View Post
    I couldn't agree more, especially having seen the despicable way that many English have behaved in Spain.

    English pubs, and fish and chip shops, boasting of a 'real English breakfast', and beer swilling drunks, and all whilst missing Spain's wonderful native food.
    Indeed, Dennis. It's crazy, however it's not just the English guilty of such, but also other Brits. Don't get me wrong, if that's what they're into as a holiday, then good luck to them, but when you're going to live somewhere abroad, that's a different kettle of fish!

    We have that problem in Tuscany, where my family originate from, with certain parts of it now referred to as 'Chiantishire', where Brits (in this case mainly English) have huddled all together in insular little enclaves, as mentioned earlier, for what reason I've no idea, simply serving to spoil the area [by diluting its 'Italian-ness']. I simply don't understand the mentality

    Even if I didn't speak Italian, and living in Italy was a whole new experience for me, I'd still want to get right in amongst the locals and try and integrate into their way of living as quickly as possible, as presumably I'd have had valid reasons for moving there in the first place, seeking to enjoy a different lifestyle that I couldn't get back in the UK!

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    Looks great, Jerry (I've seen you post that picture before). So if you don't mind me asking, what was it exactly about living in Spain you didn't like (wasn't as you hoped it would be), which caused you to move back to the UK, as mentioned earlier?

    Just curious!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Looks great, Jerry (I've seen you post that picture before). So if you don't mind me asking, what was it exactly about living in Spain you didn't like (wasn't as you hoped it would be), which caused you to move back to the UK, as mentioned earlier?

    Just curious!

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    It was the 25% influence of my illogical right half brain.
    We really enjoyed being there for all of the obvious reasons. Fantastic.
    But I had no idea what 'homesickness' was until it started to happen after about 15 months being there.
    After 18 months I mentioned my thoughts on it to the wife -- whoosh, I was on the plane back to the UK on a house hunt! She felt the same.
    It was just a kind of deep empty yearning that just carried on growing. Weird. Had to get HOOOOOOOOOOOME !!!
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    Lol... I can *totally* relate to that feeling, as I experience it to a much lesser degree when on holiday abroad, especially when we go for 3-4 weeks to Italy, during the summer holidays, but that's mainly borne from the desire for a change of food, because as much I love Italian cuisine (or French on the way there, as we always drive), I'm desperately hankering for some SPICE, in the form of a nice hot curry!!

    I'd imagine that it would be the same in Spain... Now I love *proper* Spanish food, but if one night you're sitting watching TV and suddenly feel like a Chinese or Indian takeaway (delivered to your door), how easy would that be to do in Spain, out with of the major cities? I can tell you that in Italy, you'd have NO chance! Also, since I've mentioned TV, I don't know about the Spanish variety, but the Italian one is SHIT!

    All these things, when you're living day in day out somewhere, are important, and in terms of TV, I think ours in the UK is the best in the world. I know that once can access UK programmes, via satellite TV, but it's not the same.

    I guess that some places, as great as they are in their own right, will never quite feel like home. The climate would also be a significant factor for me, as I simply couldn't live anywhere where it was continually hot and almost never rained!

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