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    Hi Paul,

    Quote Originally Posted by paulf-2007 View Post
    Our house is 70 miles from Calais, so back in Blighty in no time at all. Had planned to move lock stock and barrel, but talking French on the telephone is very difficult and various other things make it seem hard going, the wife doesn't drive and has to rely on me to go anywhere yet here she can do her own thing. What made me realise it wasn't going to work for her was when I went shopping in town here and she chats with all the shop staff and couldn't do that in France. She speaks English well enough and her native Thai but is too late in life to be proficient in French. Weather is shite like here in winter and colder.
    All interesting stuff

    My French is pretty good, so the language barrier wouldn't be an issue, and the French culture is similar to my own and that of my wife, with us essentially being Europeans living in the UK. Shite weather also wouldn't an issue, as neither of us are sun worshippers, plus we could go for trips down south when the urge for better weather arose!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post


    .... with us essentially being Europeans living in the UK.

    Marco.

    Well, well ! I never had you down as one of them darned forriners, Marco. (I am referring to Glasgie, of course)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Reed View Post
    Well, well ! I never had you down as one of them darned forriners, Marco. (I am referring to Glasgie, of course)
    Well that's certainly how I felt when I ventured east of Harthill ... strange lot those Jam Tarts and Hibees fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Reed View Post
    Well, well ! I never had you down as one of them darned forriners, Marco. (I am referring to Glasgie, of course)
    Lol - aye!

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    Quote Originally Posted by montesquieu View Post
    Well that's certainly how I felt when I ventured east of Harthill ... strange lot those Jam Tarts and Hibees fans.
    thats well east of harthill...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Squirrel seems to be 'Skwirl' all over too. I've adopted that one as well.

    In some case they are using the 'correct' sixteenth century pronunciation* and it's us that have changed. In that situation difficult to say who's right.




    *EDIT: Not with Hyundai, obviously.
    It's a bit odd getting sniffy about the 'correct' English pronunciation of a word from a language with an entirely different alphabet.

    Even with English words, who gets to decide the correct pronunciation? Should 'bath' have a long or short 'a'? Should 'envelope' be pronounced as spelled, or as 'onvelope'? How about 'garage'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe View Post

    Even with English words, who gets to decide the correct pronunciation? Should 'bath' have a long or short 'a'? Should 'envelope' be pronounced as spelled, or as 'onvelope'? How about 'garage'?
    Simples !. 'Bath' will be pronounced according to local accent and be correct, though my N.O.E.D. only gives the short 'a' pronunciation. 'Envelope' and other French-derived nouns can be pronounced either way and 'garage', according to my new O.E.D., has two pronunciations. I have to say that I thought that the one with the stress on the last syllable was American English, but there's no mention of that. Such is the flexible nature of our marvellous language, cobbled together from so many sources through the ages. Not so simples after all !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe View Post
    It's a bit odd getting sniffy about the 'correct' English pronunciation of a word from a language with an entirely different alphabet.

    Even with English words, who gets to decide the correct pronunciation? Should 'bath' have a long or short 'a'? Should 'envelope' be pronounced as spelled, or as 'onvelope'? How about 'garage'?
    I love the fact that accents and pronunciations are different all over, and I love local dialects too. I'd hate to see them die out. When I moved to Staffordshire 30 years ago you could barely understand what some of the old folk were saying, it was almost all in dialect. But now that generation have all gone the local accent and dialect has faded a bit from use. It's a shame.

    Written English is a different matter. Not a big deal on forums but for official and work-related communication I expect it all to be spot on grammar and spelling-wise. There's no excuses these days. Get the computer to do it for you if you have to. Despite that the standard seems to be dropping daily.
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    What's the Stoke dialect like? Can't say I've heard it, or you ever speaking it

    The Staffordshire one is quite broad-ranging, so will be different where you are, compared with, say, somewhere like Rugeley...

    Btw, whether it's for work or on forums, you should always try and write as well as you can, using proper English. As they say, if you don't use it, you lose it!

    As far as forums go, it really annoys me when seemingly well-educated people are too lazy to punctuate properly or apply cohesive sentence structures, in turn making their posts rather difficult to read...

    Mind you, if they sat their asses down at a proper keyboard, rather than typing on a bloody phone, it might help!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    What's the Stoke dialect like? Can't say I've heard it, or you ever speaking it

    Marco.
    You have words like 'Ast' which means 'Are you...?'

    'Conner', for 'can't'
    'Shonna' for shan't
    'Onna' for won't.

    'Dust' for 'do'

    'Thee' for 'you'

    Bus is prouncunced 'buzz'
    Water is pronounced 'waiter' or 'watter'

    Have a go at decoding this. It's a cartoon they used to run in the local paper. Took me years:



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