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    I didn't bid on the Stanton Marco, what with two very generous members offering to help out

    Re the feet, I have an idea that should work with 50mm sorbothane and is pleasing to the eye, as it's got to fit in my room. If I'm going to put a turntable in the lounge, it can't be an ugly duckling - you know me

    The external PSU is something I think I can do myself quite easily, been pouring over schematics and looking at the transformer and PCB today. Just going to keep the 32v ac output from the transformer to pins 1 & 2 on the motor PCB, assuming I'm correct in my assumptions thus far? Haven't got the multimeter out yet. Might try the 21v dc mod later, but as I've said I want to do the minimum to start with (cost wise), as it will be pointless if I only end up playing LPs once or twice a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim View Post
    I didn't bid on the Stanton Marco, what with two very generous members offering to help out
    Indeed, but did you not read what I wrote about that? Both those are new-ish items, and whilst fine, are unlikely to be as good as the NOS item on ebay, fitted with a better stylus... Never mind, you can try them (or one of them), and if you like the Stanton's general sound, you can always go for a NOS one later

    Re the feet, I have an idea that should work with 50mm sorbothane and is pleasing to the eye, as it's got to fit in my room. If I'm going to put a turntable in the lounge, it can't be an ugly duckling - you know me...
    I get ya, but do also consider that the 'oil rig' effect is only really evident when the T/T is situated quite high up from your listening position. It's much less of an issue lower down.

    The external PSU is something I think I can do myself quite easily, been pouring over schematics and looking at the transformer and PCB today. Just going to keep the 32v ac output from the transformer to pins 1 & 2 on the motor PCB, might try the 21v dc mod later, but as I've said I want to do the minimum to start with (cost wise), as it will be pointless if I only end up playing LPs once or twice a week.
    Yup, all good stuff

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    I thought the one Jules has was the same, a Stanton 680EE - or have I cocked up
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    Yes, but like Macca's, its also a fairly modern item (you can tell by the colour of the stylus housing). Like I said, either will be fine for you to have a listen, but if you like what you hear, you can do better by going for a NOS version.

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    I experimented extensively with Sorbothane and found that it just completely sucked out any emotion in the music. Tried it as a platter mat, a bearing dampener, feet, pcb mounting cushions...... all sorts! Good luck.
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    CD Teac VRDS25X(Audiotuned) DECK 1210 Mat Crystal Audio Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony armboard Feet Isonoe PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/3 Stage Regs/Recap PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MC Cadenza Black FGS CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10

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    OK, homework for the future then - need to get it refurbished and assembled first. I've stripped, completely dissembled and cleaned every single part except for the bearing so far, just need to sort the cabinet out. Going to remove all the extras with LEDs and fill in the holes - it'll be a absolute marvel if it ever runs again
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    Quote Originally Posted by REXTON View Post
    I experimented extensively with Sorbothane and found that it just completely sucked out any emotion in the music.
    You weren't playing The Smiths again were you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim View Post
    OK, homework for the future then - need to get it refurbished and assembled first. I've stripped, completely dissembled and cleaned every single part except for the bearing so far, just need to sort the cabinet out. Going to remove all the extras with LEDs and fill in the holes - it'll be a absolute marvel if it ever runs again
    No worries, if you want to experiment with bearings, check out the IanMac ones (details in Techiepedia), as they're likely to offer the biggest bang for buck.

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    check out the IanMac ones . . .
    Sent him a PM this afternoon, should he make some more

    (been in and around the Techiepedia most of the day!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim View Post
    You weren't playing The Smiths again were you?
    HA! No.. I hate the smiths!!!

    Tim, how far do you intend to go with this 1210 as we can offer you numerous cheap or virtually free tweaks to improve the effectiveness of the 1210. I see that you've removed the top cover which protect the motor from under the platter. I'd leave that off and I would fill in all the screw holes with something marine resin, that way you are removing several surfaces which potentially can transmit vibration to the bearing. Additionally, any ideas what you'd like to do with the bearing? There are a few mods which can be done very very cheaply to minimise vibration getting into the bearing from the bearing bit and additionally from stopping the bearing transmitting vibration into the PCB! You might also want to think about how you are going to stabilise the bearing. Something like a bearing base plate is quite useful. I'm more than happy to help with this one if you really really want to get the most from the deck.
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    CD Teac VRDS25X(Audiotuned) DECK 1210 Mat Crystal Audio Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony armboard Feet Isonoe PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/3 Stage Regs/Recap PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MC Cadenza Black FGS CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10

    VALVE
    PRE
    Croft Epoch(Modded) AMP Sondex S100 (Modded) SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Ref XO + Batpure supertweeters DECK Garrard 301 Mat Teunto Bearings 401(Bastin) Plinth Bamboo Arms 3009/3012 PSU Eagle+Tachometer MC Ag Meister II/FGS + Ortofon SPU MONO CABLES Arm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ SpeakerPC Tripple C+WBT-0681 Ag IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostages Paradise(4 Box Mega-Modded) / Croft Musicmaker



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