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Apologies again for the tardy reply - too many threads to contribute to!Originally Posted by magiccarpetride
In that case, Alex, I'd definitely go for the Jelco, as IMO the RB300 is the weakest link, and the Jelco will release considerably more performance from your existing 103. so that's where the best 'bang for your buck' lies
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Apologies again for the tardy reply - too many threads to contribute to!
In that case, Alex, I'd definitely go for the Jelco, as IMO the RB300 is the weakest link, and the Jelco will release considerably more performance from your existing 103. so that's where the best 'bang for your buck' lies
Marco.
Agreed. The RB is a great arm. But if you're in love with the DL103. There is certainly a better match.
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Thanks Marco. Since Rega RB300 is a 9.5'' arm and Jelco is a 9" arm, I'm not sure if I'll be able to swap the tonearms easily on my Systemdek IIX?Apologies again for the tardy reply - too many threads to contribute to!
In that case, Alex, I'd definitely go for the Jelco, as IMO the RB300 is the weakest link, and the Jelco will release considerably more performance from your existing 103. so that's where the best 'bang for your buck' lies
Marco.
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Alex, your Systemdek was likely shipped from the factory with a Profile II arm: effective length 228mm. The Jelco SA-750D has an effective length of 229mm. So the deck is likely well suited to the Jelco. The Jelco also has a Linn mounting pattern.
The RB300 has an effective length of 237mm. So, if the previous owner did not alter the deck too much to fit the Rega, likely the Jelco is actually a much better match for the turntable in general...
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There you go then! Plus, if you do eventually go for a 103Pro, you'll have the right arm to make the most of it
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Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & reg mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat/Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight/Isonoe feet & boots/Ortofon RS-212D/Denon DL-103GL in Denon PCL-300 headshell with Funk Firm Houdini/Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.
Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.
Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.
CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.
Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.
Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.
Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.
Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.
Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.
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That's great news, thanks!
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That settles it then. Thanks MarcoThere you go then! Plus, if you do eventually go for a 103Pro, you'll have the right arm to make the most of it
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I have been intrigued by the Denon 103 and it's variants for years but don't appear to have a compatible arm.
Popular consensus seems to support the Jelco arm. Is this the ideal pairing and spending more brings little or no return, or are there others.........?
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The Jelco is a great arm. I have been extremely happy with my 12" arm from Thomas Schick (http://thomas-schick.com/en/produkte). He also makes 9" arms. very high quality components.
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Alex, Audio Sensibility is the Cdn importer for Jelco arms, and they were advertising on CAM about some specials on the 700 series due to their being replaced by a newer model. You might want to take a look over at the CAM site for that post.That settles it then. Thanks Marco
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