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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Reed View Post
    Not quite sure how these work, but I think the record revolves in a tank of fluid, which, presumably, is ditched after a certain number. If so, that doesn't sound too good to me.

    Do they vacuum dry (or even blow-dry) the record so that it's ready for the inner? Can't see how, with part of the record immersed. Whereas I'm sure the ultrasonic method is superlative, it seems pointless if you're going to lose the benefits of a common or garden RCM.
    The DIY versions have a large tank where the record is immersed and revolves around a central axis via a motor drive, the record is the manually removed for drying either on a rack or some offer a drying tank which has an air dryer.

    The commercial machines have a small tank which automatically fills as part of the cycle, after cleaning the tank automatically empties and a blow dryer is activated, I believe the commercial machines have a filter to clean the crap that has been removed
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    I cant say enough good things about the Pro-Ject RCM. Its amazing and not too loud if you het the MK2 version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizastical View Post
    I cant say enough good things about the Pro-Ject RCM. Its amazing and not too loud if you het the MK2 version.

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    Do you find the need to use ear plugs or ear defenders whilst using the Project? As I've had the Moth for six years it is a nuisance, for me at least, having to block out the noise.
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    I can't quite believe that I have just spent five minutes watching a record rotate!

    However, I am not sure about the machine blow drying the record post cleaning - seems more logical to me to dry by sucking the remaining water/crud? off the vinyl. I would worry that any remaining dust would be baked on as the suspension evaporated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guy View Post
    I can't quite believe that I have just spent five minutes watching a record rotate!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Audio Al View Post
    I have a Loricraft PRC 3 , its bliss compaired to the Okki Nokki and Moth I previously owned

    Not cheap £1400,00 but what quality is ? UK made and comes as std with a 5 year Guarantee , I love my machine , I can clean LP's and listen to LP's at the same time , How good it that

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    Hi Al

    Ive been looking at the Loricraft machines the last couple of days and have seen the demo videos on Youtube. Would you say the records are better cleaned on the Loricraft compared to the Okki Nokki and Moth machines

    I may purchase one of these machines myself in the near future

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    Clean is clean. I have owned KMAL, Loricraft, Nitty Gritty and Moth, all did the job equally well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Henley View Post
    Hi Al

    Ive been looking at the Loricraft machines the last couple of days and have seen the demo videos on Youtube. Would you say the records are better cleaned on the Loricraft compared to the Okki Nokki and Moth machines

    I may purchase one of these machines myself in the near future

    Lee
    Hi Lee

    Yes the Loricraft knocks spots off the ON and Moth , chalk and cheese comes to mind , I will pm you my number if you want a quick chat
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    Quote Originally Posted by hifi_dave View Post
    Clean is clean. I have owned KMAL, Loricraft, Nitty Gritty and Moth, all did the job equally well.
    Sorry Dave I cant agree with your comment the PRC3 is in a different league ( having owned a ON an a Moth )

    just my opinion
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    Quote Originally Posted by prestonchipfryer View Post
    Do you find the need to use ear plugs or ear defenders whilst using the Project? As I've had the Moth for six years it is a nuisance, for me at least, having to block out the noise.
    Not at all. It's not terribly loud.
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