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    Quote Originally Posted by paulf-2007 View Post
    Yes Grant I know but I find it doesn't keep my attention when it's so easy to move on to something else at a click.
    Then just throw away the remote control! Fortunately my CDP doesn't have one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulf-2007 View Post
    Yes Grant I know but I find it doesn't keep my attention when it's so easy to move on to something else at a click.
    I find that an advantage if and when I do it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    Then just throw away the remote control! Fortunately my CDP doesn't have one.
    Mine do, but I tend not to use them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    Then just throw away the remote control! Fortunately my CDP doesn't have one.
    i wasn't talking about a cdp. I use a notebook and Spotify but I like to play vinyl some of the time.
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    'Sitting'....in my suspended chair makes it somewhat difficult to get at equipment! So a remote for Mac, plus a volume remote on the 'Stereo Coffee' pre, is essential here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulf-2007 View Post
    Yes Grant I know but I find it doesn't keep my attention when it's so easy to move on to something else at a click.
    Surely that is a indication that you are not enough into that piece of music! Or is it that changing tracks on vinyl when it doesn't hold your attention is too much effort. Don't confuse effort and convenience!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherwood View Post
    Surely that is a indication that you are not enough into that piece of music! Or is it that changing tracks on vinyl when it doesn't hold your attention is too much effort. Don't confuse effort and convenience!

    Geoff
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulf-2007 View Post
    Ffs I give up
    Vor you Paul, ze war is over!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    Are the two stators, flanking the membrane, at the same high potential? If so, I don't understand how they can work.

    The Finals have a relatively narrow width, so the dispersion in the horizontal plane shouldn't be too bad, whereas the dispersion in the vertical plane will be poorer.



    I'm interested that you have actively crossed over the electrostatics to the two subwoofers. I have tried using a single subwoofer (with a built-in amplifier) with the upper frequency roll-off set at the highest frequency available (which from memory was 100Hz) and fed by the two speaker outlets from the main amplifier. But I couldn't really get on with it: no matter how I set the level, it was either too intrusive (level set too high) or didn't have any effect (level too low).

    A lovely, unusual, but obviously successful system Stephen. Well done!
    Sorry for the delay. My mistake with the Final inverter technology. The company that replaced the panels used to reverse the inverter tech (which is stepped up audio signal to membrane, static voltage to the stators) but they no longer do that, simply replacing panels with a slightly thinner membrane and improved coating. There is a Final white paper on the approach but they claim benefits such as avoiding very low impedance ( the Finals have a minimum of over 3 ohms) and ability to use a smaller audio transformer. Although Final ceased trading nearly a decade ago there are developments in the pipeline. The designs were taken over and tweaked under the ownership of Essence Electrostatic but that only seemed to last about a year (models were the Essence 1200 and 1600) and now Final seem to be reborn with a completely new range coming out using, I believe, perspex stators. They demo’d in Munich last year but there’s precious little on the web yet.
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    Something has changed, but I can't quite put my finger on it . . . .



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