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I'm Shaun.
Yeah, I bought 'Blue Chip' by Acoustic Alchemy quite a few years back from a seller through Amazon that was listed as collectable condition. It wasn't, it had a warp so bad it was unplayable. The biggest problem though was that I hadn't tried to play it for quite a few months.
the condition of the cover is of very little interest to me, I'm only interested in the quality of the record, I listen to music, I'm not a collector. I've seen records that have been sealed for many years for silly money and removing the seal would devalue the record, a bit like vintage wine, unless you're a multi millionaire who is going to drink a bottle of wine costing thousands, then what is the point of looking at it. Oh bugger I'm derailing my own thread. I'm assuming the rush record is not that good yet you describe it as excellent.
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Yes, very true. I've got loads of LPs that cost a quid each and 99 percent were fine after a clean. I also don't care about the condition of the sleeve. Ironically one of the worst records I own for noise was bought brand new. Cleaning improved it but it is still below the acceptable threshold. I just don't see the point anymore now CDs are so cheap. I miss the euphoric distortion a little, I'll admit, but I'm hoping that will wear off with time.
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I'm keith.
I jusr accepted that anything on Discogs and Ebay is probably going to be one or more usually 2 grades lower than its described. All my used vinyl gets a ultrasonic clean and a vacuum dry now though.
Sorry, my explanation could've been clearer. The cover of the album is as good as it's possible to be having firstly been in a shop and subsequently carefully owned. However, since it's a gloss light grey that marks easily even this one is no longer "perfect". All of them that I've seen for sale have some sort of marks.
I agree wholeheartedly that there's no point having records not to play them. My main point was simply that the RC definition of Mint, taken literally, was arguably unachieavable for many album covers which date back to the last century. When we were first buying them many of them weren't "perfect" to begin with. However unscrupulous sellers still use that grading.
Pete
The used vinyl market has changed drastically in only a few years. Just 5 or 6 years ago, good vinyl was to be had on eBay for $1 to $5 a piece. Now, used vinyl is going for $13! Due to the new interest in vinyl, everyone is trying to cash in. Luckily about 6 years ago I stocked up on many used records in the $1 to $5 range.
But even the descriptions of the ratings is ridiculous, since when has the word GOOD meant unplayable? I bought an old Alice Cooper, Love it to Death, and it skipped in 4 places! Rated Good. After about 5 serious scrubbings it is now playable, but still has a lot of pops and ticks. I don’t mind taking a chance for $3, but when they are charging $12 or $13 for a used record, I expect more.
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Garage system another Sony receiver, cassette deck
System components are subject to change without warning and at the discretion of the owner.
My own rule of thumb is to look at the cover. Anything that is bumped, obviously edge/storage worn and creased up is not excellent. and neither will the record be.
Its become worse because of smartphones. Every arse wipe has become an expert and their over optimistic and often illiterate lack of description is an other warning to avoid like the plague.
I don't use discogs but if something is not as described on eBay then it will go back at the seller's expense as a matter of course.
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i think most vinyl enthusiasts will get it pretty much right mostly. there may be the odd difference in attitude re nmint to ex etc, often by perfectionists, (and lets face it, new vinyl isnt perfect and never will be)but they usually know whats what; unless they are at the madam, or made a genuine mistake. i keep all my record covers in poly liners which helps a lot, and until recently in ali cases too
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