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    Default Equipment Cones, Spikes, Feet and Pads.

    For those who wish to experiment with equipment spikes or cones. There seems to be confusion sometimes. Cones and spikes do not isolate or decouple (pick your term), they do the opposite and complete a rigid physical circuit. In other words, solidly couple equipment to whatever it is stood upon.

    If you want to 'isolate', use pads of compliant material like Sorbothane or use feet that rely on springs for a similar effect. Although most spring feet have no damping, Sorbothane does self damp, which can be beneficial. Feet that contain rubber also offer some internal damping.

    The choice of items to stand equipment on is huge, so pick carefully.

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    Levitating magnets isolate but only in one dimension
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    Levitating magnets isolate but only in one dimension
    Yes. They replicate the effect of mechanical, metal spring devices, but without friction (if designed right).

    There is a way for them to work horizontally as well as vertically. Requires a lot of magnets. I have thoughts about a magnetically levitating turntable plinth. Not experimented yet though.

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    quite liked mine on the suspended tt.
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    FIIO K7 BT, M11 PLUS, BTR7, KA5 - OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - PANASONIC 4K ULTRA HD TV - PIXEL 6 - AVANTREE LR BLUETOOTH - 2* X600 SOUNDCORE - HEADPHONES INCLUDE, FIIO, NURAPHONES', FOCAL, OPPO, BOSE, CAMBRIDGE, BOWER & WILKINS, DEVIALET, MARSHALL, SONY, MITCHELL & JOHNSTON - 2*ZBOOK'S- MERCURY BD ROM, ROON, QOBUZ, TIDAL, PLEX, CYBERLINK, JRIVER - MULTI HDD'S -

    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


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    Only speakers and turntables need isolating, waste of time with anything else. There's a great demo video from (I think) the RMAF where they are using a laptop as a source and the laptop is 'isolated' on Stillpoint spikes. Always cracks me up.
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    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Only speakers and turntables need isolating, waste of time with anything else. There's a great demo video from (I think) the RMAF where they are using a laptop as a source and the laptop is 'isolated' on Stillpoint spikes. Always cracks me up.
    needs it on glass imo. or hollow surfaces
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    FIIO K7 BT, M11 PLUS, BTR7, KA5 - OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - PANASONIC 4K ULTRA HD TV - PIXEL 6 - AVANTREE LR BLUETOOTH - 2* X600 SOUNDCORE - HEADPHONES INCLUDE, FIIO, NURAPHONES', FOCAL, OPPO, BOSE, CAMBRIDGE, BOWER & WILKINS, DEVIALET, MARSHALL, SONY, MITCHELL & JOHNSTON - 2*ZBOOK'S- MERCURY BD ROM, ROON, QOBUZ, TIDAL, PLEX, CYBERLINK, JRIVER - MULTI HDD'S -

    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

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    I use sorbothane pads under my external hard drive (which houses my lossless audio collection). Otherwise it vibrates quite noticeably, especially when just spinning up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Only speakers and turntables need isolating, waste of time with anything else.
    Not necessarily. I find chunky Sorbothane pads under my DAC and CD player definitely help. Difficult to describe how, but having experimented, it's an audible improvement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Not necessarily. I find chunky Sorbothane pads under my DAC and CD player definitely help. Difficult to describe how, but having experimented, it's an audible improvement.
    got my oppo on sorbothane pads.. tt has its own fancy feet and they are on slate, then little rubber discs then onto the hollow table...lol
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    FIIO K7 BT, M11 PLUS, BTR7, KA5 - OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - PANASONIC 4K ULTRA HD TV - PIXEL 6 - AVANTREE LR BLUETOOTH - 2* X600 SOUNDCORE - HEADPHONES INCLUDE, FIIO, NURAPHONES', FOCAL, OPPO, BOSE, CAMBRIDGE, BOWER & WILKINS, DEVIALET, MARSHALL, SONY, MITCHELL & JOHNSTON - 2*ZBOOK'S- MERCURY BD ROM, ROON, QOBUZ, TIDAL, PLEX, CYBERLINK, JRIVER - MULTI HDD'S -

    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Not necessarily. I find chunky Sorbothane pads under my DAC and CD player definitely help. Difficult to describe how, but having experimented, it's an audible improvement.
    There's a bloke who did test this by measuring the output of amps, DACs and transports while subjecting them to vibration. There was no change in the output whatsoever. Which is what you'd expect. Having said that I have in the past experimented in this area, various different supports for CD players and amps, and thought I could detect differences, albeit so marginal that I think it unlikely they were real.
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    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.

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