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    Default Equipment Cones, Spikes, Feet and Pads.

    For those who wish to experiment with equipment spikes or cones. There seems to be confusion sometimes. Cones and spikes do not isolate or decouple (pick your term), they do the opposite and complete a rigid physical circuit. In other words, solidly couple equipment to whatever it is stood upon.

    If you want to 'isolate', use pads of compliant material like Sorbothane or use feet that rely on springs for a similar effect. Although most spring feet have no damping, Sorbothane does self damp, which can be beneficial. Feet that contain rubber also offer some internal damping.

    The choice of items to stand equipment on is huge, so pick carefully.

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    Levitating magnets isolate but only in one dimension
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    Levitating magnets isolate but only in one dimension
    Yes. They replicate the effect of mechanical, metal spring devices, but without friction (if designed right).

    There is a way for them to work horizontally as well as vertically. Requires a lot of magnets. I have thoughts about a magnetically levitating turntable plinth. Not experimented yet though.

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    quite liked mine on the suspended tt.
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    Only speakers and turntables need isolating, waste of time with anything else. There's a great demo video from (I think) the RMAF where they are using a laptop as a source and the laptop is 'isolated' on Stillpoint spikes. Always cracks me up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Only speakers and turntables need isolating, waste of time with anything else. There's a great demo video from (I think) the RMAF where they are using a laptop as a source and the laptop is 'isolated' on Stillpoint spikes. Always cracks me up.
    needs it on glass imo. or hollow surfaces
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    I use sorbothane pads under my external hard drive (which houses my lossless audio collection). Otherwise it vibrates quite noticeably, especially when just spinning up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    Only speakers and turntables need isolating, waste of time with anything else.
    Not necessarily. I find chunky Sorbothane pads under my DAC and CD player definitely help. Difficult to describe how, but having experimented, it's an audible improvement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Not necessarily. I find chunky Sorbothane pads under my DAC and CD player definitely help. Difficult to describe how, but having experimented, it's an audible improvement.
    got my oppo on sorbothane pads.. tt has its own fancy feet and they are on slate, then little rubber discs then onto the hollow table...lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Not necessarily. I find chunky Sorbothane pads under my DAC and CD player definitely help. Difficult to describe how, but having experimented, it's an audible improvement.
    There's a bloke who did test this by measuring the output of amps, DACs and transports while subjecting them to vibration. There was no change in the output whatsoever. Which is what you'd expect. Having said that I have in the past experimented in this area, various different supports for CD players and amps, and thought I could detect differences, albeit so marginal that I think it unlikely they were real.
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